It's difficult to 'splain common sense to narrow minded people but I'll give a simplistic synopsis and pray it sinks in.


In life, there are the Haves and the Have Nots. The U.S. is a country with a lot of Haves.

While there is no question that the trade imbalance appears on paper to be unfair, you have to key in on the word balance.

In order to mantain a global economy, it cannot be all Haves.

The Japanese do not have the standard of living that we do.....won't even get into the SOL of China and the others. One example is a Japanese mortgage is 100 years for a TINY house which ecumbers generations of a family.

As far as profits are concerned, you need to worry more about what is done with those profits than where they go.

When a GLOBAL publicly traded company INVESTS in the U.S. and employs U.S. workers it is far more beneficial to that local economy than another GLOBAL company taking their profits and moving the production to foreign soil.

(even though that factory on foreign soil may someday help that country's standard of living rise enough to maybe purchase the product they're making)

So in the end, if you are short sited enough (and arrogant enough) to insist that the U.S be the ONLY country with Haves..........let's just say that would be the quickest possible way to becomming a 3rd world nation.


On a side note, I wonder if all these screaming patriotic isolationists (you know, the people that scream that it's MY country and get out if you don't agree with me) have actually served their country??????? 4 years USAF here.......

 

I agree completely, you seem to actually understand the trade deficit problems with japan. Our vehicles sent over there are sitting on docks for up to six months at a time, being "inspected" for quality and other things then the japanese passes this cost on to the consumers along with other tariffs and taxes making an american vehicle bought in japan almost twice the price it costs here. Effectively stopping ppl from buying american products. Support our country buy our products where all the profits go back to our economy!!

 

Understanding global economy will help a tremendous amount.

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I do understand the global economy. Now if every one would insist on fair trade then we would all be closer to agreement. Japan does not trade fair.

 

We are in the largest debt in american history, this is almost 99.9 percent in fualt of a global economy. We are whoring out are economy and becuase of it were in a huge debt. Pretty soon china will be the world power and america is going to be dependent on other countries becuase we cant do anything for are selves, were gonna be chinas bitch becuase its to hard to make something at a low cost. What is the pride in buying a import? Why do some of you get offensive when ppl are patriotic, we live in america dont we? I really dont understand some of u, I know its your opinion but come on y are some of u pleased with handing over your country on a silver platter? What did america do from the 50's-70's? We made products for are ppl from are ppl, and we wernt in the debt we are in now. Also, It's difficult to 'splain common sense to narrow minded people but I'll give a simplistic synopsis and pray it sinks in. Isent that a racial comment toward the steriotype of a southerner?

 

Darn shame that is...........I hear people say them furrin' made Fusions and Lincolns with dem Japanese undrpinnins' are durn fine automobiles............too bad yur 'pinion hates on dem furrin' car....(spit)

?????????? Whats your problem DOHC?

 

The Japanese do not have the standard of living that we do.....won't even get into the SOL of China and the others. One example is a Japanese mortgage is 100 years for a TINY house which ecumbers generations of a family.
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japan's standard of living is second only to us as best I have ever studied. They just do things different. So that argument is moot. I am not an isolationist. I understand what your saying and I agree with most about the haves. You just underestemate the japanese I served in the USAF for 8 years

 

Isn't every country in debt. You make it out that America is the only country that suffers with a global economy. While I will agree with Chris1450 if infact that is what happens in Japan with american vehicles that it isn't right. But lets face it in, in todays global market there is no such things a morals anymore. I think every country in some way trades unfairly, we the public may not hear or see it but it happens.

Even though this a beating a dead horse that has long been dead but an american that buys a Ford or Chevy assembled in Canada or Mexico with parts from there or whatever other countries they produce parts makes that person more patriotic than someone who buys a Toyota that has it's parts produced in the States and is assembled in the States which produces jobs for the people in the States and money into the States economy.

So the big argrument is that the profits go back to Japan? What's so different with going and buying a new flat panel TV and surround sound system made by Sony or Panasonic or Hitachi?

 

Almost twice? Last time I checked, it was almost three times the price!

Meanwhile some Japanese cars sell for less here than they do in Japan!!

 

Please note that there are many countries ahead of the USA in comparative standard of living surveys. A few Scandinavian countries, Canada, and Australia are often put ahead of the USA and none of those countries have vehicle manufacturers as large as the USA or Japan.

I really couldn't care where a company is based as long as they are not based in a country which is my country's enemy. Either way, it's making a multibillion corporation wealthier which does nothing for me. Despite the fact that the USA is much closer to Canada than Japan, I see just as many sponsorships and charitable donations by Toyota Canada as by Ford of Canada.

 

Name two that do with the US

How quick they all forget this

 

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My problem is people who have no clue what they mean by saying "keeping the profits here"

My problem is people who think they are somehow patriotic buying a Ford when Ford not only has imported cars from other countries but have rebadged Asian cars as their own. Or how about Ford buying 34%(?) of a Japanese company.

My problem is with xenophobes that bash Japanese vehicles when some of the content of their own car/truck comes straight from Japan.


It's a global economy..........all the peeps that are so worried about "profits", simply buy stock in the company of your choice (then you can whine all you want about profits)

 

So "southerners" are a race of people now??

 

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Darn shame that is...........I hear people say them furrin' made Fusions and Lincolns with dem Japanese undrpinnins' are durn fine automobiles............too bad yur 'pinion hates on dem furrin' car....(spit)

?????????? Whats your problem DOHC?
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My problem is people who have no clue what they mean by saying "keeping the profits here"

My problem is people who think they are somehow patriotic buying a Ford when Ford not only has imported cars from other countries but have rebadged Asian cars as their own. Or how about Ford buying 34%(?) of a Japanese company.

My problem is with xenophobes that bash Japanese vehicles when some of the content of their own car/truck comes straight from Japan.


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preach Doch ,

why are we concerned where THEIR Profits go. it aint our money so why the hell should we care. I could CARE less what ford does with the money. if they want to blow it on things like Jaguar. thats their problem as long as the dont decrease quality to save a few pennies and come back and ask me for some more money then i could care lesswhat they do.

 

I don't follow your last sentence, why is Ford going to ask you for more money?

Where do you think Fords profits come from? Maybe the products they sell. And who buys them, yep you and I so where do you think their profits come from again?

So then I take it your reasoning behind not buying toyoto is because of the quality issues if you don't care where profits go.