Friend wants to start a plant.
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Friend wants to start a plant.
He is looking for a system that will produce around 10,000 gal. or so. I figured I would post about it and see what plants everyone thinks he should use.
On a side note I have been making a gallon a weekend to cover my additive. Truck loves it checking mileage this tank.
On a side note I have been making a gallon a weekend to cover my additive. Truck loves it checking mileage this tank.
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Originally Posted by superpony18
I figured I should clean that up a little. He wants to produce between 2000 and 10000 gallons a month. He has loggers and other bussines's that would buy it. The logging alone uses 10-12000 gal. a month.
What type of feed stock oil are you going to use, and how are you going to come up with 10,000 gallons/month?
FABMANDELUX.
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Reasonably around 2000 a month. He could sell in excess of 10,000 if he had it. He plans on collecting waste oil in Arkansa. He recently traveled there and fryers were in every bussines. This could amount to nothing but he usually goes through with his ideas. He is looking for info on automated processors. Does Bio require a placerd to be shipped. Thank you Fabman.
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Originally Posted by superpony18
Reasonably around 2000 a month. He could sell in excess of 10,000 if he had it. He plans on collecting waste oil in Arkansa. He recently traveled there and fryers were in every bussines. This could amount to nothing but he usually goes through with his ideas. He is looking for info on automated processors. Does Bio require a placerd to be shipped. Thank you Fabman.
Biodiesel does not have to be placarded yet. As far as I know, nobody is making a automated system for this small a processer.
I can make 500 gal per day with my homebuilt processer, but if he is going to make it for sale he's going to run into a lot of "red-tape" and extra expense.
FABMANDELUX.
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Phydeaux is right. I design these plants, and once you attempt to sell biodiesel you have major hurdles to consider. You MUST register with the NBB [at $2,500 + $.01 / gal/year]. You'll also have to register your product with the EPA.
Then building the plant....................You'll have to comply with 2007 building, plumbing, electrical codes. Then you'll have to apply for state AND federal waste-water AND air pollution permits. Ready to sell bio right? Wrong! Now you have to supply proper testing documentation FOR EACH BATCH! and the tests cost $1,200 EACH!!!!!!!
The only way to avoid all this headache is to make it for off-road use, and form a legal Co-Op.
FABMANDELUX.
Then building the plant....................You'll have to comply with 2007 building, plumbing, electrical codes. Then you'll have to apply for state AND federal waste-water AND air pollution permits. Ready to sell bio right? Wrong! Now you have to supply proper testing documentation FOR EACH BATCH! and the tests cost $1,200 EACH!!!!!!!
The only way to avoid all this headache is to make it for off-road use, and form a legal Co-Op.
FABMANDELUX.
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Ok, to start it is for off-road use. Logging equipment and generaters. I have cheched out your system in your profile and read many of your posts. I have found in a search before (when I wasn't interested), automated systems that would make 50-80 gallon batches in a day or two. Can't seem to find anything right now. Thank you again
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Originally Posted by superpony18
Ok, to start it is for off-road use. Logging equipment and generaters. I have cheched out your system in your profile and read many of your posts. I have found in a search before (when I wasn't interested), automated systems that would make 50-80 gallon batches in a day or two. Can't seem to find anything right now. Thank you again
FABMANDELUX.
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I live in Arkansas and you are right, there are a lot of businesses with fryers. To make that much though, you would have to do a LOT of collecting. The best I've found is to deal with the commercial collectors. Yes, you do have to pay for it. About .17/#
I've got a system I put together, and can process about 400 gal every 2 days. I had thought of going commercial, but there are already 2 plants in operation and another 2 on the way. I've been thinking that maybe I just need to scale back or do the coop thing to get things moving.
I've got a system I put together, and can process about 400 gal every 2 days. I had thought of going commercial, but there are already 2 plants in operation and another 2 on the way. I've been thinking that maybe I just need to scale back or do the coop thing to get things moving.
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Originally Posted by superpony18
He just wants an automated setup so that is what I am looking for.
http://www.imerjent.com/index.html
FABMANDELUX.
Last edited by fabmandelux; 12-11-2006 at 06:47 AM.
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