OK, while, we're on the subject, I had to rebuild my upper control arms before I could mock them up on my IFS crossmember that Fat(head)Fenders swears does not exist in my shop. I figured that I'd go ahead and paint them so that they would be already be finished when I am ready for final assembly. I had planned to blast everything, shoot it with Rustoleum Clean Metal Primer and then topcoat it with Rustoleum Satin Black because these are available in rattle cans for the small stuff and by the quart for the frame itself. I am not impressed. The primer seems to be doing well, but the topcoat chips and scratches pretty easily. This'll be a driver and I can only imagine what the chassis would look like in 20,000 miles with this combo. I've heard about the John Deere Blitz Black before. I read here somewhere once that the hot ticket is to spray it over tacky Rustoleum primer for a super tough finish. Is it really that tough? I know that epoxy primer is the ultimate, but as George stated, it's hard on guns and with this project getting pieced together as it is, I'm really not kicked about spending a lot of time mixing up small batches to paint a piece here and there as I get them blasted and then spend another hour meticulously detailing the paint gun. Think I oughta go with the Blitz Black over the primer that I'm already using or will I not be happy with anything but epoxy? I need to figure this out pretty quick as I'm going to start blasting suspension parts in a couple of weeks.

 

'rage

fathead here. I have used JD Blitz black for a decade or more. Got the tip from Car Craft magazine. It's not two stage Polyurethane. It's not $100 a gallon for black either. I like it because it sprays great, dries WAY nicer than Rustoleum, rust resistant, great coverage. Works well in cool weather. (Not cold) and it's reasonably priced (more about price in a second). It can be touched up easy. It will stick to bare metal though I don't know why you would risk it. I have used it over every kind of primer you can imagine. Comes in rattle cans but is lots cheaper by the quart. It's nice for interiors too. No, not the dash board. Under the carpet, back wall and inside roof. I bought some 3 months ago. As I recall, QT is about $10 and will do a frame with a little left. Gallon is about $30. Rattle cans $4-5 are handy for that little spot you missed. I think it is cheaper than it could be. Farmers are tightwads. Most of them have no choice if they'd like to turn a profit. BTW, the preferred primer is not tacky rustoleum, but it will get you out of that jam too.

'fenders

 

where would you get this paint at??
like i said i never heard of it before.
can you brush it on besides using a sprayer??

swanny

 

Well, that sounds just peachy keen. I'll give it a try. Hey Swanny, grab the yellow pages and look for a John Deere dealer. They'll have it at the parts counter.


'Rage

 

Swanny

Its for farmers so of course you can brush it. Or just tear up an old shirt and rub it on like stain.

'fenders

 

'fenders what is your preferred primer under this stuff?

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 27-Nov-02 AT 05:30 PM (EST)]I have used it over two stage epoxy primer on several occasions. I think it bites into fairly fresh rustoleum best though. I would recommend any kind of primer with some sealing ability (as opposed to lacquer type primer surfacers which offer about zero rust protection). Like I said, we are not going to achieve show frame finish here, just a nice easy to apply satin finish, that will last pretty well and touch up easy. For a fraction of other method costs.

'fenders

 

thanks fenders.
how fresh of rustolium primer are you talking about??

thanks again,
swanny

 

Rebel

A month or so. You can restore a truck waiting for rustoleum to dry clear through if it's not mid-summer.

'fenders

 

thanks again fenders.
ill try it out.
its been gettin alittle cold up here in ohio.
but i got my heater of full blast when im in my garage.
thanks again,
swanny

 

No problem Swanny

It's a pain but you'll want to heat the garage a good while before you attempt any painting in Ohio this time of year. I thought you were from AL of MS for some reason.

'fenders

 

alot of people say i belong on a farm some where else.
but im from ohio and my grandma is from tennessee.
so im kinda from the south.
im not like others from around here.
they are to stuck up and i cant stand it.
o well.
they will learn one day not to mess with me.
hehe.
but i got my heater goin lik 30 minutes before i go out there.
and i got a themostat thingy.
keep it on 60.
not to cold and not to hot.
garage is in bad shape but a pole barn will take that place sometime.
30x70 foot.
nice and big.

swanny