Why buy a 6.4? Chipped 6.0 is better!
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why get a 6.0 when you could probably get more out of a 7.3? this is a stupid thread, the new truck is more refined, has more options, and some people just want to buy new. anything can make more power than something else, that is a stupid arguement. cummins' can make more than the powerstroke so why are people buying powerstrokes?
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Honestly, when a new truck is released for the first time everyone thinks it looks ugly, why? because it is different. Give it a year and I gaurantee the people who hate the new truck will be owning one!?!
Let me ask, who would want a 6.0 with the nice track record that it has? I guess you can't chip a 6.4L, I guess I forgot to read that in the press release....
Let me ask, who would want a 6.0 with the nice track record that it has? I guess you can't chip a 6.4L, I guess I forgot to read that in the press release....
#4
heck, why buy anything? i can probably take a 1977 ford and make more power out of it and make it more bullet proof than any new truck, and for alot cheaper also.
or get a mid 90's f350 for 12k$, rebuild everything and have more power and durability and ease of maintenence than any new truck, and still have less money wrapped up in it than the cost of a new one.
or get a mid 90's f350 for 12k$, rebuild everything and have more power and durability and ease of maintenence than any new truck, and still have less money wrapped up in it than the cost of a new one.
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Originally Posted by Ry_Trapp0
why get a 6.0 when you could probably get more out of a 7.3? this is a stupid thread, the new truck is more refined, has more options, and some people just want to buy new. anything can make more power than something else, that is a stupid arguement. cummins' can make more than the powerstroke so why are people buying powerstrokes?
The point is, why would me or anyone else want to trade up for the new model just for the "new engine"? It doesn't appear more refined, only has more junk on it to break. It will cost more to buy and more to repair. Will probably also get worse mpg.
As far as more options, what are you talking about, the step in the tailgate? Yeah, I gott have one of those.........
I will keep my 05 until Ford decides to come out with an all new engine with real innovation, not a made -over 6.0......
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i understand about the trading up a perfectly good 6.0, unless someone just likes the new truck there is no reason really.
the only reason i have mine is because i couldn't even find a 7.3 that didn't have over 100k miles on it, that left me with buying a used low mileage 2004, then trading it in on a new 2006 for $20 more a month.
also, alot of poeple like having the warranty on thier trucks and some poeple plain and simple like having new things. if they can afford it than go for it is what i say.
but i agree, trading up a perfectly good 6.0 JUST for a 6.4 doesn't make much sense, unless a person needs that f450 weight rating for their camper trailer.
the only reason i have mine is because i couldn't even find a 7.3 that didn't have over 100k miles on it, that left me with buying a used low mileage 2004, then trading it in on a new 2006 for $20 more a month.
also, alot of poeple like having the warranty on thier trucks and some poeple plain and simple like having new things. if they can afford it than go for it is what i say.
but i agree, trading up a perfectly good 6.0 JUST for a 6.4 doesn't make much sense, unless a person needs that f450 weight rating for their camper trailer.
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Personally, I think that chipping an enigine is stupid. Don't you think if Ford could plug in a computer and make more horsepower and torque in a matter of minutes, they would do it. Don't say they wouldn't either. They sell their trucks based on horsepower and torque. Smoewhere or another deep in that engine there is going to be some damage done caused by plugging in a chip. Ford engineers their trucks to meet laws and regulations while still getting the most power out of a truck they can without causing any reliability problems. That's just my opinion.
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[QUOTE=GeneralC.]Personally, I think that chipping an enigine is stupid. Don't you think if Ford could plug in a computer and make more horsepower and torque in a matter of minutes, they would do it.
That is your opinion. You are probably less likely to have problems stock then chipped. But I guarentee they are alot more fun chipped. 6.0 I would be hesitant to mod too much. 7.3 mod away and enjoy the reliable power packed ride!
I think the new 6.4 will be a great engine and platform.
That is your opinion. You are probably less likely to have problems stock then chipped. But I guarentee they are alot more fun chipped. 6.0 I would be hesitant to mod too much. 7.3 mod away and enjoy the reliable power packed ride!
I think the new 6.4 will be a great engine and platform.
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It's threads like this that make posting at this site a waste of time anymore.
Stock for stock the 6.4 is already over one second faster zero to sixty than the 6.0, thank god ford doesnt agree with your opinions or technology would just stagnate forever, find something that works and stick with it right boys???
Further, nobody that knows anything about performance enhancement uses "CHIPS" anymore, everything now is programmers, plug it in, download your map for the engine and tranny, unplug it and forget about it, most stay on a shelf until you need to change the program for some reason.
Also, ford is keenly aware of the fastest growing aftermarket performance segment in the country right now being these diesel trucks, and even though they will never come out publically and endorse it, you better believe they know there are thousands upon thousands out there running every day.
Take a guess how many hotrodded 6.0 superdutys you'll find at a nascar race on any given weekend? That includes crews and all transport staff as well as spectators, or maybe an NHRA event, or maybe a built ford tough professional bullriders event.
Personally, my daily driven 6.0 has 44k on it making over 430hp to the wheels with nothing more than a 4" straight pipe w/downpipe, intake and a very good SCT programmer's touch. The truck has run a 13.65 on 35" tires with 6in lift. Stock tranny and all, no puking, no problems. The only thing I do is use additive religiously.
Bottom line, you dont like forward progress, then stick with your old stuff, you dont agree with owners that want more power than the factory gives us, then leave your trucks stock.
But the lecturing on performance enhancement or "chips" as you experts like to call them is really getting old, do what you want with your truck and I'll do what I want with mine.
Stock for stock the 6.4 is already over one second faster zero to sixty than the 6.0, thank god ford doesnt agree with your opinions or technology would just stagnate forever, find something that works and stick with it right boys???
Further, nobody that knows anything about performance enhancement uses "CHIPS" anymore, everything now is programmers, plug it in, download your map for the engine and tranny, unplug it and forget about it, most stay on a shelf until you need to change the program for some reason.
Also, ford is keenly aware of the fastest growing aftermarket performance segment in the country right now being these diesel trucks, and even though they will never come out publically and endorse it, you better believe they know there are thousands upon thousands out there running every day.
Take a guess how many hotrodded 6.0 superdutys you'll find at a nascar race on any given weekend? That includes crews and all transport staff as well as spectators, or maybe an NHRA event, or maybe a built ford tough professional bullriders event.
Personally, my daily driven 6.0 has 44k on it making over 430hp to the wheels with nothing more than a 4" straight pipe w/downpipe, intake and a very good SCT programmer's touch. The truck has run a 13.65 on 35" tires with 6in lift. Stock tranny and all, no puking, no problems. The only thing I do is use additive religiously.
Bottom line, you dont like forward progress, then stick with your old stuff, you dont agree with owners that want more power than the factory gives us, then leave your trucks stock.
But the lecturing on performance enhancement or "chips" as you experts like to call them is really getting old, do what you want with your truck and I'll do what I want with mine.
#15
This truck will sell like hotcakes. Ford expects to sell 300,000 plus off these trucks and Im sure there marketshare will increase dramtically mainly because off the new 6.4. Change is change. If you like your 6.0 keep it.If you dont trade up. Personally Ithink that Ford has outdone themselves with the new truck. Dodge an GM will be way back with there HD trucks.