352 harmonic balancer and pulley questions.
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352 harmonic balancer and pulley questions.
My '66 352 has what looks like merely a crankshaft hub for the pulleys to bolt onto. Is it supposed to have a harmonic balancer? If so, what balancers (ie 360?, 390?) from what year can I use.
Also, I plan to add power steering and a/c to the truck very soon. Will the pulleys from an early 70's or mid 70's truck FE work on the 352? What about accessory brackets?
Also, I plan to add power steering and a/c to the truck very soon. Will the pulleys from an early 70's or mid 70's truck FE work on the 352? What about accessory brackets?
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The pulley you have now is the vibration damper. Ford combined the vibration damper and one V belt drive pulley on the early edition of these FE engines. You need to locate a FE engine with AC and PS. Get all the pullies and the vibration damper from the same truck. The York AC compressor support can be fitted with an adapter that will allow you to use the newer sanden compressors. Vintage Air sells the adapter for about 65 bucks. Finding a method of adjusting the compressor drive belt can be a problem. I use a idler pulley on a L shaped mount that I bolt to the alternator bracket. This bracket and idler is available at any parts store that carries Four Seasons products. You will know it when you see it because it mounts with one big bolt and by swinging the bracket with a 12 inch cresent wrench you can adjust belt tenshion. Ford pulley combinations will drive you nuts! Get all your stuff from one truck and be sure it is an FE engine. The 351/400/460 stuff looks similiar but will not work.
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WiA has the right information, and I'll add to it. I added A/C to my 352 just like you wish to do, so I'll share what I learned.
You can use any set of pulleys and brackets from any FE engine, car or truck, provided you get a complete set from one engine. Of course, the truck setup from '68 to '76 is better and the '74 - '76 setup is best.
You cannot mix and match sets of pulleys and brackets; they just don't work together. Unless, of course, you find 2 identical sets in the same junkyard.
If you can find a '74 - '76 360 or 390 with A/C, get all the pulleys, brackets, bolts, spacers and everything you can. Be sure to get the power steering brackets and pulleys as well; you will want to do that upgrade later. Even if your truck already has PS, get the PS brackets and pulleys anyway. The PS brackets and pulleys for engines with A/C are often different than those with without.
Good luck!
You can use any set of pulleys and brackets from any FE engine, car or truck, provided you get a complete set from one engine. Of course, the truck setup from '68 to '76 is better and the '74 - '76 setup is best.
You cannot mix and match sets of pulleys and brackets; they just don't work together. Unless, of course, you find 2 identical sets in the same junkyard.
If you can find a '74 - '76 360 or 390 with A/C, get all the pulleys, brackets, bolts, spacers and everything you can. Be sure to get the power steering brackets and pulleys as well; you will want to do that upgrade later. Even if your truck already has PS, get the PS brackets and pulleys anyway. The PS brackets and pulleys for engines with A/C are often different than those with without.
Good luck!
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Not sure if it will be an issue with the 66 352 ci, as it is with the 65, have a 65 390ci and found later model damper, and corresponding pulleys had slightly larger bolt pattern that the 65. Trying to find the correct 2 sheave pulley for the 65 390ci is like trying to find chicken teeth. Suggest take measurements, may need to narrow search to 65-72, but don't quote me on this. Perhaps more knowledgeable member can advise.
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daveengelson! You have hit on one of the biger Ford pulley issues waiting to surprise the unsuspecting. That one got me as well! Like I and others have said, it is really important to get all the pullies, brackets and supports from one FE engine. That bolt spacing business has bit many of us. I just dropped off a 5 gallon bucket full of Ford pullies at the local scrap collector. They would not fit anything I have.
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Believe damper can be repaired, perhaps more knowledgeable member can advise. If so, with any luck there may be more choices as to a replacement seal than the damper. Believe me when I say finding damper for 65 352 is like looking for chicken teeth.
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The front timing cover seal mates to the damper spacer so replacing the damper should not cause a problem with the seal. Unless you just want to change it while you are so close. You can buy a "speedy sleeve" that slips on over the spacer and provides a nice new smooth place for the seal to ride. The dampers can be rebuilt. I'd try google or maybe someone here remembers. It is likely the one of the performance dampers available on e-bay or at your local speed shop would work. Or try the junk yard. If you go to a parts store and ask for a damper for a 65 Ford with a 352 they will not be able to help you. Ask for a 76 390 and you might get one that works.
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