Originally Posted by WillyB

Talk about inflation! when gas was 30 cents a gallon a good cup of coffee was a nickel! You seen what they charge for it now???

What this country needs is a good 10 cent cigar!

Originally Posted by sancochojoe

TV represents left wing because TV is basically watched for entertainment. Thats how I look at it. I watch very little TV anyway, I listen to talk radio most of the time on XMRadio and they have both sides of the political forum with equal exposure. I never said what side you were on. Cut and paste any quote I said that suggest you are conservative. I don't care. I'm addressing your argument, not your political affiliation. I got the Purto Rico numbers from a recent CNN chart, but I guess thats too left for you so you won't believe it. It may not be true, It was quick to find, so I used the data. No, it was incorrect. The data I got was from 4 named stations which listed their locations and telephone numbers, and were prices less than a week old. And let's use logic. Puerto Rico is not an independent country. Its payments are made in U.S. dollars and it is subject to US foreign policy requirements. So how could its gas prices be different from any US state other than the taxes it imposes?

I also stated my political views which are Socially Liberal, and that I am a Christian, a Roman Catholic. My political views are constitutional which makes me conservative. Code 3 insulted my religious views, you did not.


Its amazing your not open to other alternatives. Crude oil will run out, What gave you that information. There are deposits of crude oil now that will last 100 years at our current usage. I hope you don't believe other wise, if you do that is pure folly on your part. Not true How can you boast about being the first at this and that and teaching other countries our technology, if you are not willing to accept newer technology and options to power vehicles during their early stages of research. When gas was put into cars, people thought it would be too dangerous because they would explode. So I have already told you I am open to real technology, not "feel good" false technology. There still are no practical alternatives.

The basis of my beliefs is all based on civility. War in my opinion is not civil. Fighting countries for a product is not civil. Having to ability to avoid military conflict over "things" shows a society has reached the ultimate of civility. Thats my opinion and my belief system. There is nothing liberal or conservative or green about that.No, but we did not start this war. over 3000 people were killed by terrorists on 9/11. The belief system of the terrorists is not to be civil. It is to impose their 8th century views on the rest of us.


If having oil or not determines if I will exist as a society it only suggest how premitive and uncivil we really are as a nation and no different then a third world country with money (oximoron). Without oil we have no plastics industry, no distribution system, no method of moving people, and less than half of our electric power, no way to heat our houses, and we would then have no economy. How can you make such a statement?. Your statements make no sense.

The ability to take even water to power a 2 ton vehicle is amazing to me and perfecting something like that would show how far we come.I think so myself. I would be happy to power my 48 truck with hydrogen. From using dirty nasty oil to water is simply amazing. Thats just one option. But other options are just as amazing, you just have to put resource on it to perfect it. Oil is not endless You do not know that, that is only your opinion. The latest evidence shows that there is oil for at least the next 100 years at its present usage. Corn will always grow, We cannot grow enough corn to make enough Ethanol. We can perfect refining of oil shale in Colorado. water will alway be there.But water, at present can't run the economy. Don't stop progress.Cutting off oil would stop our progress. Well thats how I teach my kids. Always look beyond the future.I think you meant to say always look ahead. Thats why we as Americans have been so dominate,(dominant) because we look to the future. Sorry to say, oil is not the future.Not true. Oil is required for at least the next 25 years, and there is plenty of it to go around. We are fighting over it like crazed dogs.No, oil is not involved in this terror war. We are quite willing to pay our way. If we were like Hitler, or Stalin, we would just take all the oil from Iraq.

Originally Posted by HT32BSX115

Hey....I think you can get a 10 cent cigar in Cuba! (well maybe when the current administration is voted out of office!......wait a min..do they get to vote?)


I can remember paying 19.9 cents for gasoline for my 57 Ford in 1969 during the gas wars where stations were selling at a loss. Gas in 56, when I graduated from High School was .35 in Bishop and .23 in LA. We thought we were getting reamed in Bishop.

If you use one of the current consumer price index calculators... gas at $0.35 in 1969 would be around $2.25 now just due to inflation.

This is with NO market forces at work like increased demand AND decreased supply (by the way OPEC was by design agreeing to control output to CONTROL supply!. Venezuela was one of the founding partners in OPEC btw) When it was a democratic country.

If you put demand into the equation (or shortages) at any point along the way in the production cycle....it would be higher. Remember when sugar had high demand and we had quotas on cane sugar to protect Louisiana and Hawaii from cheap Cuban Sugar? Now that demand has dropped, it is not an issue, and sugar is cheap.

Believe what you want....but I don't think it's a fair to compare a modern, advanced, democratic, free market republic, that leads the world in productivity to any third world dictatorship.



I'm going back to work on my 55 Ford!

I have that 292 spead all over the floor! The valves are in good shape......the bearings seem pretty tight.. But the timing chain is so loose i'm surprised it didn't slip a cog like my 239 did!

Anyone know where I can get a good deal on a new timing set?
NAPA has them. You can get the parts numbers on www.napaonline.com. They showed $75 for the set.



Regards,

Rick

Originally Posted by alanco

I could blame it on your acceptance of liberal/socialist/rhetoric, ...

I'm so sick of that crap! I voted for Bush too, both times.I didn't. I voted for Carter the first time, Reagan twice, then Bush, then Clinton, then Dole, then Bush twice. I have left liberalism gradually when the party I belonged to started attacking my religion, and the second amendment. I also voted for his dad both times. If I was old enough to vote for Reagan, I would have done that too. I think we're doing the right thing in the middle east, sorta. I actually think we should be a bit more hardlined, and isolationist. My book collection has works by Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, and Bill O'Reilly, among others. In short, I'm a Conservative Republican...but you folks have GOT to stop spewing that left-wing conspiracy crap! Did Hilary Clinton blame her husband's problems on "that vast right wing conspiracy"? That plays right into the hands of those Liberal idiots who waste my good oxygen rambling on about "paranoid right-wing zealots". Who should care what they say. They cannont discuss issues much like you seem not to. They do not tell the truth. You embarass yourself and everyone else who is a God-fearing, law-abiding, patriotic citizen.I am a U. S Army veteran, I am a Roman Catholic, I am against abortion, and I am law abiding. So how am I suddenly your bad example? I apologize for being so harsh, but I've read that garbage until I just can't be quiet about it any more. Perhaps you should stop cleaning your assault rifles long enough to pull your head out of your highly fortified desert survival compound An assault rifle is what the perverted media define as one, not what one really is. I do not live in a desert compound, and I do not own other than a bolt action .22 rifle and a bolt action Winchester 30.06, and two shotguns. I do own 3 handguns. The rifles and shotguns are to hunt with. Why would you attribute my defense of the second amendment to the equivalent of a right wing militia group? and join the rest of civilization.I have been a contributing member of civiliation all my life. I will put my record against yours any time. I am a member of my town board, and served my county on an economic board. I am the Secretary of my Chamber of Commerce, and I help my volunteer fire department. Hey, we're way over here, and we're tired of you folks making the rest of us look stupid. Back atcha. I think you are the one who looks stupid, and also sounds like it, and seems angry. This country is not perfect, but it's the best there is. If you want to leave,Why would I leave a country I love, and have served? I work in a place that sends planes to the middle east almost daily. Perhaps I could reserve you a seat.Now what brought that on? You seem very free with insults if you don't agree with someone. I guess you are anti-gun, and we probably agree on most other things. I would suggest that you learn to discuss rationally, and as for calling me Self-Righteous, that is the height of absurdity. I have opinions, but I am not a blowhard. I am a college graduate, and I like to mentor young people. When I talk about creating my own job, it is so I can live in a rural area where there are few jobs, few people, and few technical service people to take care of computer cars and computers. I do not make a lot of money and I am semi retired on Social Security with my wife of 35 years. So I'm your bogeyman? And after all, I have a 56 Ford truck I am rebuilding into a F-250 4 x 4 flatbed, and my wife and grown kids like me, so there.

Originally Posted by alanco

So in my humble opinion, you cannot support your positions on oil with facts. You do not know the numbers and you obviously do not understand our economy. Your views against war are admirable and are identical to mine, but if we had not fought World War 2 we would have lost our country. This is also a war we have to fight. We have always fought on the side of democracy. We brought peace to Japan and it became a world power without conquest. We restored Germany as a peaceful (although deceitful) nation, and restored France to freedom. We kept England from takeover and destruction by missles. We kept South Korea from being taken over and made it an industrial power. We have kept China from taking over Taiwan and it is an industrial power as China itself is becoming.

Regards,

Alanco

Originally Posted by alanco

To Sancochojoe and Code 3:

Sancojoe, what electric car beat a Ferrari? The folly in hybrid cars is they are using lead acid gel batteries that in many cases add so much weight to the car that they get worse gas mileage than a comparable gas engined car. In that way they are no answer as they will be too expensive to maintain, and remain nothing but "feel good" cars. Just think of a 5 year old hybrid that needs new batteries? Who would pay for that? What really is an alternative is a hydrogen car powered by a fuel cell. They are not yet ready. Electric, non hybrid cars are even dumber. In many cases they are charged by a hydrocarbon burning steam plant in a city. They are useless except in a city. The only alternative at present is to drill for our own oil. Other than that, prepare to become a third world country.

Alanco

Originally Posted by merc546

What the hell does all of this have to do with working on old trucks? I think it's way past the time to have this moved to another forum.Chuck