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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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The money order scam.

So I've got my parents mastercraft listed on a few websites...

get an email last night:

Hi,i would be interested in buying this boat,please let me know the following
1,bottom price for it.are u the first owner?how long have you used it?let me know as soon as possible.get back with this informations only
I'm 99.9 peercent sure it's a scam email, and they'll offer up some excuse as to why he has to pay with a Money order worth 2x the amount.....

Sure enough....

next email
Hi,i'm expecting a refund payment from a company i had earlier ordered a vehicle from but the order was later cancelled by me because when my agent went for the pick up of the vehicle, he discovered that vehicle was not in any good condition, so i cancelled the order and i then filed in for a refund of my money. I intend to use this my refund to pay for this your boat im buying from you and the shipping services. due to the company policy a refund payment is made in one cashier check, so i have to instruct for the check payment to be drawn to you. So payment will get to you by cashier check in usd.

The refund payment $19,000 When payment gets to you, you are required to deduct the cost of your boat which is $10000 and return my remaining balance of $9000 back to my agent for him to be able to offset shipping charges and other commisson charges.

My shipping agent will come for pickup once the check gets to you while you send the reciept and other title papers to me via mail. provide your proper postal mailing address and phone numbers for payment.

congrats
So, KNowing that it would be fun to screw with this guy, I'm thinking, I'll build a LARGE crate (about the size of a boat...) Then fill it with crap (rocks, fill etc) then have the "shipper" come get his boat.... Think it would work?
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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Better to build the large crate and put a model of the boat in it!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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I would be more inclined to contact law enforcement in your area and set up a trap.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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just remember--the money orders they send you--are fake--but close to very accurate copys--and they clear your bank about 4 days later--after you already sent him your money--then your out!!!!!! and the bank comes looking for you---one of the nigerians defected to the usa--and came clean--and said usa people deserve it cause that have too much money--and a attitude to match--and the nigerians laugh at it---not cool
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Nice catch on the scam.

You would not believe the number of otherwise very intellignet people that fall for this type of scam.

Wait till the check comes and then turn it and all the emails over to the cops. OR give them a fake name, rent a PO box under said name, have them fill it out for that name, get a fake license and cash it at a bank other then your regular bank.
 

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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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When I sold my s10, I had a scammer strung along, even sent me the "mo" It was "drawn" on a bank in COLO, I called them and asked if they wanted me to call the cops or if they wanted the "MO". They didnt really care
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CAFordDude
... OR give them a fake name, rent a PO box under said name, have them fill it out for that name, get a fake license and cash it at a bank other then your regular bank.
Yep. Might as well rip somebody else off.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CAFordDude
Nice catch on the scam.

You would not believe the number of otherwise very intellignet people that fall for this type of scam.

Wait till the check comes and then turn it and all the emails over to the cops. OR give them a fake name, rent a PO box under said name, have them fill it out for that name, get a fake license and cash it at a bank other then your regular bank.
I know your kidding Aaron - cause that's a sure fire way to hear:

"(name), An inmate at the (county name) Jail. Will you accept the charges?"
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jake00
......So, KNowing that it would be fun to screw with this guy, I'm thinking, I'll build a LARGE crate (about the size of a boat...) Then fill it with crap (rocks, fill etc) then have the "shipper" come get his boat.... Think it would work?
No.

They will not pick the crate up, even if the REAL boat was inside. It's NOT about the merchandise, it's about your money order.

There's a better way to "screw" with these guys.......take some notes from the Busted-up Cow Girl...

Linky here (funny reading)
 

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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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More than just "funny reading", how about roflmao funny!!
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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It is like the "sweepstakes winner" scam where you are a guaranteed winner...just send money. We had to take my father's checkbook away when we discovered people were taking advantage. Why are so many out to screw the elderly???
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefGReid
I know your kidding Aaron
Yep just kidding..

My dad who I would consider to be an above average intelligent man almost got sucked in by a similar scam. He got a letter from someone supposedly trying to move to the US from another country. Letter stated they were only able to bring a certain amount of money into the country and could my dad take a money order, cash it and then send them X dollars. They would keep what he sent them and his "fee" would be what was leftover. It was in the 6 figures, I do not remember the exact amount now. My dad even went as far as to contact a lawyer friend of his thinking this was legit. Luckily we were able to convice him it was a scam.

But for a while there he thought it was real.
 
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Old Jun 17, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Why are so many out to screw the elderly???
Sadly, because older folks tend to be rather trusting and scammers know that this makes them vulnerable. I noted in the original post and in the second quote that the alleged buyer has trouble with the normal, usual, and customary language of this country. That right there should catch someones attention and puts a flag up.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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My little brother was selling a car on the net and had the same thing happen to him, he got the money order and was getting ready to respond when I found out. It took a lot of effort to get him to verify with the supposed bank that the money order was legit. The bank did not exist. Then he was mad the person would not respond to his emailings.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 07:46 AM
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This has been a scam on buying used cars for years. Money order and cashiers checks are incredibly simple to make (and look authentic). You would be out of a boat with bogus check.
 
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