These are pictures I meant to put online a while ago. Picture #2 is the box itself, which has a black and decker logo plate on it. Picture #4 is a tool that looks to me like some kind of a suage for valve guides and was marked "FORD MODEL A".

I have no idea where they came from, a friend of mine collects wooden boxes and found it at a yard sale.

 

This looked like some kind of journeyman machinists box, here is the last picture - this is the tool marked as a ford model "A" item. The print on the tool is too fine to read but it IS there, I have seen it with my own eyes. In some of the drawers are different sized and shaped grinding stones that appear to be for valves and so on...

 

Looks like an early hand powered valve grinding set for flat-heads. Good score! I've got an old hand powered line boring set that I got from my dad. Black& Decker made quite a few automotive tools back then.

 

Valve grinding and maybe some reamers and knurls. Great score!!! The old stuff is just pretty in a display case in the garage. A great conversation piece also!

 

Nice find, with a few stones and pilots, all you need now is a driver for the stones. Some parts are still available through Goodson. I have a B&D valve grinder.

 

GRL can you guide me to Goodson? I have a B&D seat grinder and
I need some parts. Thanks

 

www.goodson.com

 

GRL thanks, all the years I've been around this first I heard of them.
We are never to old to learn.

 

Goodson has come through for me many times. I've got the B&D valve grinder from a Ford dealership I used to work for. The seat grinder is a Snap-on that I got from a guy who won it in a poker game (small straight), also have a set of seat reamers going back into the 40's.

 

Wow, what a great find if the tools could only talk.
I have a electric seat grinder where the stone orbits around .080" off center around the pilot shaft. It does not chatter like a regular seat grinder with full contact on the seat.
.....=o&o>.....

 

I worked part time where the owner had a seat grinder as Beemer
writes about, I did any # of heads with it but I can't remember the
name, Hall seems to keep coming to me but I'm not sure. What i'd
like to find for my B%D is a ball bearing stone carrier, They were put
into the aviation set up that they made.

 

kotzy;
Yup your correct, I had to climb over 5 motorcycles and welder to locate the grinder.

The Hall Manufacturing Company

1600 Woodland Av, Toledo Ohio

Model "EJ" May 1945

Inside the metal case on the bottom is a drawer with some guides and stones, are replacement stones available?
I like that it self feeds down into the seat after every revolution around the guide.
The paper instructions inside the lid are hard to read and about to fall apart but what a neat tool as I have done motorcycle heads with it but need more stones.
When I was an A&P mechanic there was a time when I was grinding seats for 2800 Pratt's. With large valve seats the stone would chatter.

Question, you must be old, crazy or both like me?

.....=o&o>.....

 

I've been playing with engines since I was 12 or 13 and that was 1949/50, you figure
it out. Every time the sawbones pulls a blood sample he says it looks a little oily. I tell
him it's not olive oil he sees.

 

Ya got a few on me, 53/53.
I spent many years when young with dads auto repair and machine shop friends, damn you can learn from those old timers if you open ears and shut mouth. One mechanic had a 427 Cobra that his son has to this day, I remember a few rides in it.

.....=o&o>.....

 

I need to somehow show all of these responses to the guy who owns this kit, and what he wants to do goes from there.

I hope he has an online connect and realises what he has. Then again - I also hope someone who can appreciate these tools gets them from him for a song...

They belong in a Museum...

(Box and all)

I'm going to do my best to put the owner in touch with you. He drives a Ranger, but is an ex-marine and is kind of wierd at times...

(I know he will see this too, so what do you expect from a true friend?)

I see you same as you see me...

BEE-ATCH!!!