Interesting article on Ford's attempt to retain customer loyalty after a troubled start for the 6.0


http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../60320013/1041

 

The article has a very interesting tone. Many in the 6.0 Forum absolutely, positively refuse to admit that the 6.0 is a problem child. Interesting that Ford and Ford dealers don't see it that way.

 

I'm buying a FORD or A DURAMAX next spring.. I would not buy the 6.0 PSD for any amount of money.. It's good that FORD is doing what it can to keep it's business..

 

i never had a single prob with my 6.0, nor do i know of anyone that has, i don't see what the fuss is all about. the internet at work i guess.

 

Like I said in the 6.0 forum, I only know of one person that hasn't had any major problems with his 6.0. But I'm not going to dwell on that.

It's nice to see that Ford is kind of stepping up to the plate on this one. But they've definitely shaken confidence in the PSD. Before the 6.0, I would have bought any PSD. When I first read about the 6.0, it was like a diesel wet dream. Then I heard about the problems. Then I experienced the problems and my friends experienced the problems.

I'll be in the diesel market in the next couple of years. I won't buy a 6.0. I might buy a 6.4 after they have proven themselves. But I'll most likely buy a Ram with a Cummins.

Mike

 

How about the extra $500 million Ford admitted to spending in 2005 on 6.0 warranty issues?

Did you read the article? Maybe you missed this part:

Like I said:

 

???
Ford spent a total on 500million on their total warranty claims in the US in 2005...
Not 6.0l specific.
In all fairness, it could be because they have had experience with it.
The 6.0l PSD is one of the greatest diesel engines I have ever had anything to do with (especially in automatic form) - but if you get a bad one, you get a real bad one.

 

yes, thats right, ford spent $500 million total, not just on the 6.0, yet another internet game.

and i love to see the percent of 6.0's that gone wrong from poelpe that mod them, throwing a tuner and cranking it up 150hp is going to break something.

then the cases of people modding it and then claiming they didn't touch it also.

i refuse to admit the 6.0 is a prob child? why the heck would i say there is a prob when i never had one nor does the entire fleet of 6.0's have one in my dad's company (12 trucks) and i don't know of personnly any 6.0 owner that has had a prob. so, what prob am i refusing to admit?

and i don't see anyone anywhere swarming the gates of dodge/chevy trading their trucks in.

don't knock it until you try it.

 

Sorry guys, your wrong. Here is the quote from the article:

So Ford spent an additional $500 million for warranty repairs in the first nine months of 2005 alone as opposed in 2004, mostly due the to the 6.0.

Here is the whole article:

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...73239440872694

 

I worded my statement incorrectly - apologises... But either way that $500 million was distributed across all of Fords lineup (not just the 6.0l) - all the reporters that have written about the issue acknowledge that they have no idea how much the 6.0l caused it (And to attempt to justify the problem the reporters have decided to point the finger at something)

 

Well how do we know we no if that number is lo or high compared to other manufactures. I want to see Dodges an GMs warranty claims numbers. Does anybody have those. Until we do we really cant say anything. Please feel free anybody to post those numbers if anybody has them.

 

What Dodge or GM spent doesn't mean a darn thing. Read the quote again.

FORD spent $500 million more in the first nine months of 2005 than FORD spent in the first nine months of 2004. The $$ amount is comparing FORD with FORD. The article is comparing 2004 FORDwith 2005 FORD.

So even if GM spent $1000000000000000000 gazillion on warranty claims in 2005, that doesn't change the fact that FORD's warranty costs in 2005 sucked big time.

Gee whiz people. Just give it up. The 6.0 has been a problem engine. No, not every one, but more than there should have been. If you got a good one, Whooppee! That doesn't change the fact that way too many people got bad ones.

 

At least the tail gates don't fall off.

 

Just for clarification there are actually two articles being refered to here:

The original:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../60320013/1041

and a second further down the thread:
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...73239440872694

I only point this out because I initally missed that the second article was different and could not see where the 500million came in. Just in case anyone else missed that.

 

ok ok i got somthin else for yall, dodge has had tranny/drive train problems for years and years and NEVER EVER DONE NOTHIN TO FIX IT lest ford admits theirs problems and FIXES THEM NO MATTER HOW COSTLY, thats why i will never buy a dodge plus i have yet to see a problem 6.0 psd and dout i will! im so sick of people bashing 6.0s when half of them never set foot in one, granted there is a lot of problems w/ them so i hear, but its a great engine that hauls!!!!!! ive know people that have them they love em to death

just blowin off steam