I keep hearing all of these stories of Dodge having bad trannies, but have experienced different. Uncle has 2000 cummins automatic with 120K on it and so far, it is the origional tranny. Really, I have only seen 1 case of a dodge fullsize tranny puking at my shop. And from what I read in the superduty section, the 4r100 is no better than it's dodge counterpart. I do realizwe the torqueshift is it's replacement, but Ford hasn't built truly stellar Automatics since the day of the C6.

 

[QUOTE=Logical Heritic]... The 48re was released in 03 and according to those that know has a lower warranty rate than the allison or the torqueshift...

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I guess you can provide source for this info...

 

Its insider information only available to those that work inside the big three. It came from a source that I have known for years and trust very much. His specialty is transmission design and he works for chrysler. Told me about dodges new 6 speed several years ago too. Other than that you will have to take my word for it. I do not intentionally provide disinformation. I will tell you that the warranty rate on the allison was way above industry standards.

 

They have all had their share of auto tranny issues, especially behind the diesels. But Dodge has had the most over the longest period of time by far, and they are still using that same basic design with a few engineering improvements on the weakest parts.

The early Alisons had some teething problems but have an excellent reputation at this time. Fords have been pretty good but have also has a few problems, i.e., reverse snap ring failure.

 

Also a recall on some planets. As well as a tendency to gunk up the accuators.

 

dodge has commerial trucks w/ service beds? i wouldnt know by driving to on the freeway. bout time they step up to the super duty. i figure the fords will still be the king of the hill once this new truck comes out. just my 2 cents

 

My brother owns an 03 dodge with a service bed. Just a niche they chose to stay out of til now. The market could use some competition.

 

ud think with the popularity they had since the begining w/ the cummins that they would be neck and neck w/ the fords. ive allways known them as pullin trucks, dyno dusters, dragster,and haulers once in a while. but thats just me

 

Fords sells double the trucks that dodge sells. Ford doesnt sell double the diesels.

 

no no my friend, ford powerstrokes have sold more than dodge cummins and duramax combined since its introducton.

 

Some numbers to back up and refute previous statements about sales:
http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?ID=54570

 

thank u seftonm i was lookin for somthin like that

 

That chart's almost worth posting

 

Thats almost jaw dropping...

 

Well I guess that puts that to bed once and for all.

A side note on how a tranny is rated. As far as I know this applies only to automatic. Say a given tranny has a torque rating of 520ft lbs. What that means is that under load at wide open throttle this tranny will not fail in a 24 hour period. That is how they are rated.

If a vehicle has a torque managment system it can be used for saving any of the drive train parts. In my Vette for instance it is mostly there to protect the rear end. I would imagine that in the trucks though it is to save the tranny itself as not many tranny have been developed to handle the type of torque that the diesel is capable of.