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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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My girlfriend has a 96 explorer sport with the 4.0 automatic. The problem is when she starts it on cold mornings it ticks really loud and the engine misses until it warms up then the ticking goes away and the engine runs smoothe. I was thinking that it might be a bad lifter but I am not familiar with these engines at all. What do you guys think the problem could be. It also has 168,000 miles on it. Thanks.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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I had the same problem, i was told it was the air conditioning clutch, so.. i unplugged it and the noise stopped, good luck let me know how it works. oh by them way, what time motor does she have in it?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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i can take some pictures and post them for you if you are not sure where it is, let me know
 
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:34 PM
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Is it a pushrod or SOHC V6?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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I have no clue if it is a pushrod or a sohc. All I know is that it is a 96 4.0, would it be written on the engine somewhere?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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try looking at the sticky inside of the door, or just look up the VIN number.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Whoes, dang it I thought you meant *****s!
 
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Didn't SOHC start in 1997? But I was also thinking if it is a SOHC that the cam guides and tensioners might be in question.

The curious thing is the engine miss, not the tick. Tick can easily be attributed to low engine oil pressure at start up, sure. But a true spark miss...not ususally temperature related. When is the last time plugs and wires were changed? Sometimes, when things heat up, metal expands and electrical connections work a little better.

Other thing is that it could be a bad A/F mixture that then gets OK once warm. A/F with temp is affected by the coolant temp sensor and the intake air temp sensor.

food for thought
 
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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When did she last change her engine oil?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 12:12 AM
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The oil was changed 2000 miles ago along with the plugs. I was thinking that maybe a lifter wasn't getting enough oil pressure at start up and wasn't opening a valve causing the miss, or am I way off base here. The loud ticking noise is what has me worried.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:56 AM
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No, you're right on the pin, if the lifter is already shot you're looking at some time and money. Wouldn't hurt to change oil and filter 5w-30 and give it a bit of hiway time. How's the oil pressure?
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Jharger
Didn't SOHC start in 1997? But I was also thinking if it is a SOHC that the cam guides and tensioners might be in question.
I think so, but ID'ing the motors is a no-brainer. The SOHC has "4.0 SOHC" molded right into the engine cover. You can't possibly miss it when you pop the hood!
Also, it seems that a cold temp misfire or low idle condition is a frequent indicator of bad intake manifold gaskets. Either because the mixture is too lean for the motor to run properly orr because as the lump heats up the surgaces expand together and start to seal.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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mine started surging about a week or two ago, and i hear air come from the top of the motor, can feel it to. tried pushing the hose on there a little more, but it didnt seam to stop the noise.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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Hey lurch, If you do have the 4.0 SOHC I believe it has a hydraulic cam chain tensioner. If the cam chain was worn and the tensioner was worn at start up it could create a loud rapid knocking noise as the chain slaps around inside the engine. Once oil pressure is built up and the tensionerr is able to take up the slack it would go away. I know that my 98 had a recall on the tensioner some time ago. Also, my experience has been to use the Motorcraft oil filter as some of the less expensive aftermarket filters don't allow the tensioner to remain pressureized when the engine stops. Good luck!

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