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How can I reduce wheel hop? Pitch Shims?

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Old 01-14-2006, 10:56 PM
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Question How can I reduce wheel hop? Pitch Shims?

Well my truck has terrible wheel hop/axle wrap. So bad I have broken rear axle flanges and U joints. I asked a friend of mine and he said he uses pitch shims on the rear axle and he has no wheel hop or axle wrap.

What are pitch shims? Is there any other way I can reduce wheel hop or axle wrap?

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Old fashion Traction Bars that limit axle wind-up with rubber snubbers that contact the frame during heavy acceleration should work. Check out Summit Racing (www.summitracing.com). They have some universal traction bars in chrome or yellow color in the $40-$50 range. They are actually pretty nice looking.
 
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Old 01-14-2006, 11:19 PM
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I bought some tracion bars from summit and they only work on a 2WD so I had to send them back. My truck is a 4WD.
 
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Originally Posted by mdjohnson
Well my truck has terrible wheel hop/axle wrap. So bad I have broken rear axle flanges and U joints.
you should not have wheel hop/ axle wrap.

the u bolts were probably loose and allowed movement which got worse and worse and broke your erear axle flanges and wore out u-joints.

fix it to stock by repairing all the things wrong and i bet you have no more wrap up.

you do not need traction bars.
 
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Seems like a lot of people with these trucks experience wheel-hop/axle wrap. Possibly due to worn shocks/springs? I also have really bad wheel hop. Rear will jump up and down going into reverse and even just trying to pull out onto the highway quick. Everything seems to be tight but I do have 4" lift blocks and shocks that seem pretty soft. Looks like the traditional snubber traction bars would look kinda goofy and take up ground clearance on a truck. I was thinking about trying the over-axle bolt on ones that JC whitney carries, last time I checked they were on sale for like $90... Anybody had good luck with this kind or another method? I've also read something about heavy duty spring clamps helping...
 
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Those cheap summit traction bars won't work because your axle is under the springs. If the axle was on top of the spring, like most cars, they might help.

You have an F150 right? The problem with the wheel hop is because you have very soft leaf springs. I think you have 3 leaves on the front and 2 leaves on the back of the spring if I remember right. You might want to get a set of aftermarket springs that have a higher rate. That will help the wheel hop/axle wrap a lot.
 
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i had horrible axle wrap when off road on the diesel till i put a set of kicker shocks on. now it goes through sand as good as on pavement
 
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I have an 89 f150 4x4 and it had bad wheel hop, when i put a lift on "add a leaf" not blocks,as well as shocks, it hasn't happened since.
 
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I just put Rancho shocks on the rear, I might see if I can find any heavy duty leaf springs for it.

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Old 01-15-2006, 12:43 PM
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I was looking at Summit and found these things from Roadmaster Active Suspension. It is at store.summitracing.com and the part number is RAS-MKIIXFF. What do you think of these?
 
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I had really bad axle wrap. My solution was to build my own traction bars. In truth, they were the start of a 4 link rear suspension, but I still haven't had time to complete it. Rear axle stays firmly planted, even with 44" tires and the occaisional tire spin.
 
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Originally Posted by 93f250-44cepeks-olf-olf
I had really bad axle wrap. My solution was to build my own traction bars. In truth, they were the start of a 4 link rear suspension, but I still haven't had time to complete it. Rear axle stays firmly planted, even with 44" tires and the occaisional tire spin.
That really is the best way to go to eleminate it. Sometimes they can lessen spring travel or flex, but to some people the tradeoff is worth it.
 
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:08 PM
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What about adjusting the pinion angle?
 
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Originally Posted by 93f250-44cepeks-olf-olf
I had really bad axle wrap. My solution was to build my own traction bars. In truth, they were the start of a 4 link rear suspension, but I still haven't had time to complete it. Rear axle stays firmly planted, even with 44" tires and the occaisional tire spin.
This is the best answer so far, even though it's the most expensive.

Another expensive solution is to own an F350. I have zero axle wrap with my crewcab. But I feel every bump (from the rear) because of how stiff things are. In fact, unloaded, I can take out the shocks and you can't tell they're missing. It's *that* stiff.

Anyway, just some late night undercaffienated, irrelevent comments. As you were.
 
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So anybody had good luck with just replacing rear shocks with some good quality gas ones? I think I'm going to try replacing mine. I have rusty cheap Rough Country shocks in the rear of my F150 with bushings that appear to be the wrong size or very worn (i can move the entire shock body up and down a bit by hand) Rides fine though with no clunking...

However, like frederic said, stiffer rear leaves or traction bars are probably the way to go. I put together custom 4.5" lift leaf packs for my jeep and had absolutly no wheelhop with both rear shocks disconnected, didn't ride too great but kept those tires planted.
 
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