Would like to order.

Is price the same, $34 and $1.50 shipping

Please verify address?

 

received mine yesterday, sweet....... but now i have to wash the truck before i put them on. awwwwhh

 

2 questions....
first.. why is it that your putting these stickers on the trucks. ok first of all this is my first diesel so im really new and green.. what is the importance of the stickers... secondly... in the pics that you posted you have an american flag ripping through the metal on your doors... where did you find those stickers or are they stickers and if they are how much did they cost and where can i get them.. thanks...

JoryLee

 

International makes the 6.0 so your flying the International logo with the VT 365 decals (the 6.0 engine).

 

thanks. when i have a few exta bucks ill order mine for the truck.

JoryLee

 

Bella psd, you still doin b these badges?i wanted to make sure because your site is a little dated, it says now shipping 2015 orders. And the "add to cart" function seems to be broken, goes right to PayPal instead of adding to a cart.

 

Ace Boy this thread is Fricken 11 years old. Are you drinking that Windex again instead of using it on your glasses ???


Screw International anyways, I wouldn't put their sticker on my dogs azz.

Now there are Powerstroke Billet badges similar to the 2011-2016 trucks except with:
7.3
6.0
6.4
In the center.

But I would take a pair of VT365 Badges and then run them up the azz of the International engineer that started R&D on a 210HP engine known as VT365 instead of building one that was actually worth the effort. Why in Gods name after the 275HP VT444 would you go backwards 65HP ON ANY DESIGN.

That said Ford was pretty complacent themselves at the time to give the blessing on the 6.0. But it all went to hell when Ford learned that the new 2003 DuraMax had a 325HP output. Then you have Ford telling International that the 210HP was no longer acceptable and must at a bare minimum match GM with a 325HP tune.
Thats when the lawsuits started as well as so many under engineered aspects of the engine.
International is drying up and blowing away at this very moment.

The 6.0 and 6.4 was their death sentence. In all honesty they earned it ..................idiots

 

From my perspective going between both companies tech departments there were mistakes from both parties, a marriage where there wasn’t enough discussion, maybe too like a poker game. Plus Nav choose the wrong emmisions protocol, EGR recirculation rather then urea. And your right, Ford demanded an HP increase that wasn’t in the design cards, but the prospect of the sales volume held a big hammer despite any warnings given of bulging the envelope. Plus before the first 6.0 was ever in a dealer’s parking lot Ford was demanding cost reductions.

The whole story, admittedly from my perspective, is a long history of poor decisions by both parties, including Ford screwing around for the cheapest price which led to Chrysler signing an exclusivity deal with Cummins that left Ford in the cold in the USA. But at that time, diesel motors were a commercial option, a torque demand, long idling application with low fuel costs, and the consumer interest was minimal. Diesels were very rare indeed.

And Nav always had a commercial application in their windshield, a slow burn, less combustion pressure mindset. It ended being a poor marriage, the stodgy guy with the hot date in a mini-skirt. I think the cost factor and want for a lack of admission never allowed what could have been a fix for most issues and by 2005-2006 a resolution could have been had, but Ford was already demanding a new house. And what do you say to the 2003-04 consumers?

 

You are right about the 2003 and 2004 truck buyers.
My buddy bought a 2003 F250 and I remember telling him no way no how buy the first year of any new vehicle. But his wife wanted a new truck for the horse trailer and it was happening. He questioned the new 6.0 hard and the dealer told him that Ford had 20+ F250's in their R&D with over a million miles on them in testing and just a well oiled machine............... Yea imagine that. . . . they lied YUP.

But reality check 101: 2003 6.0 engines still had:
90mm water pumps from 210 HP model
Swash Plate design HPOP also 210 HP model
All parts were used up before upgrades were introduced.

It was a mess but the 6.4 was on a much higher level of incompetence. I honestly can't believe that engine ever saw the light of day.

Today Ford builds a solid diesel engine and its gaining respect by the day. So its all water under the bridge I suppose.

 

Actually there were moves post 2003 to reduce cost that caused more issues. Everybody jumps on the water pump but that was a move to get more coolant through a less expensive, less robust EGR cooler, I think I’m just fine with those 2003 parts, thank you.

They did run million mile trucks, and dynos. All groups run accelerated testing. But that doesn’t get the vehicles into the consumer hands which is another experience, and accelerated testing never accounts for aging. One mil miles in three years doesn’t show aging like 5 years service does. Time and again I proved differences in brake performance becasue the dynos ran constantly, the vehicles sat overnight. Oxidation of friction, lubricating fluids and cooling fluids changes parameters.

Before upgrades, or before cost reduction parts? Eyes of the beholder.

But Nav needed another year of development, Ford was already in hot water with EPA over the 7.3L for years.

 

LOL Well I'm in no way poking anyone in their eye here.

But the fact is the early VT365 waterpumps can't maintain temps when pulling a load as well as the 100mm pumps. I know that first hand because my buddy follows me up into the mountains several times a year and his truck pulls around 15-20* hotter then mine.
His oil temps also have a larger Delta and thats empty too.

But he is still on the original head gaskets and has all in all has not had much trouble with the truck.
The test trucks were clamped to a dyno with the engines running non stop. Your right there and I don't believe a damn thing Ford may have claimed. A salesman will lie to you every minute he's talking if it gets you driving off in the rubbish he is selling. So that is all pixie dust.

I'm sure Ford wanted everything cheap, they were the biggest reason these trucks went the direction they did. Technology moves forward not backwards yet thats exactly how it started off. I have seen a document where Ford's figures on the 6.0 was its Power Stroke tune ran @85% mechanical ability of the engine. Not sure who's azz that was pulled out of but it was a pipe dream.

But updated parts were developed to correct the flaws from manufacturing and the 6.0 has today became very reliable. Why none of it was used during production and only to repair was because of the liability finger pointing that went on for the 5 years they were made.
Screw it...... is what it is. But there is no way in Hell I'm hanging a International badge on my truck. I just see no point in waiving a flag for a lousy engine builder that refused to correct design flaws that were well known for over 5 years.

That said I'm not against the window decal of the Chevy kid peeing on my Ford.

 

Mine has no problem maintaining temp. Just did 2300 miles pulling my 10k lb 5th wheel from Fl thru the Smokies to Bloomington IN. and back. Highest coolant temp was 218* at the top of Clinch mtn on 25E with the oil @ 228*, boost sitting at 23 psi and 60 mph. On the flats it ran 190-192 ac off and 196-200 ac on with deltas 7-10. 210k miles, original tty bolts and was built 11/2002.

 

Thats good and they do keep temps in check most of the time. That said the 100mm pumps and front covers flow more coolant and maintain engine temperatures closer to the 194* operating temp target.

I know his ECM does not go into defuel at the same temp as mine but forget what the differences are now.
He was running a ScangaugeII in the truck and he always saw 195-210* ECT with 8-12* Deltas. After seeing temps my truck runs at he had the oil cooler replaced but the temps were the same after.
Thats when he threw the ScangaugeII in the trash. Said it was starting to dominate his drive looking at the stupid thing. If it shuts off on the highway then I be concerned he said. Because he's going up the grades as fast as he feels like going, and he does that.

Its served him well, he was pretty mad about buying it for a few years and wanted to sell it. I was the trucks biggest cheerleader calling it Money From Heaven. I wanted at least one friend as stupid as me to own a 6.0 Ford. In the end he was against selling it, and its been a good truck for them for 15 years now.