My virtual perfomance calculator shows a 365 horse engine in a 5200 lb. car at it's very best could run 14.84 @ 92 mph in the quarter. The 2.80 gear would cost you at least another half second. I would say the vette and the Mustang are in dire need of a tune up. Yes, I do know a bit about the old Lincoln's, had a brand new 72 myself.......

 

Dave: Like I said earlier, I made a mistake. The car had 3.55's. It had been modified a bit and if the other's had read my post, I said it would lay down a pair of stripes at 60.

From a standing stop, it was dead in the water, but get it moving, about 25 and up, and it was gone. I think that the fastest I was clocked in a 1/4 was somewhere around 97. I did have L60's instead of the H70's on the rear. That killed it's takoff a little too, but would let that landcruiser hang a curve in the WV mountains.

 

the 72's don't run nowhere nere like the 68 to 71's because off lower comp for regular gas but still strong when you set the timeing up from stock.

 

Clearly this calls for a shootout! I welcome all interested parties to Louisville for a bit of drag racing! Our local track is open Wed. and Fri. nights and Sat. daytimes and will open in about two months. I am dying to see some fast 460s! My old mustang is 460 powered but I won't bring it because it is modified a bit and clearly an unfair advantage. So I will bring the stock '85 mustang. Alright it has flowmasters on it. Nevertheless here ya go guys a chance to clear the air and then fill it with smokey burnouts...

 

Thanks for the invite, but I doubt a trip all the way to Louisville to watch a Lincoln go through the quarter mile would be that exciting..... I'll probably just stay home and do something really fun like give my dog a bath!!!!! Drag racing starts here in late April. I certainly won't be ready, but the other two Ford guys around here that I race with will be.... Should be a fun summer.

 

Maybe you can get to the World Ford Challenge in St. Louis? Mid may sometime... I'll be there with the '69 mustang.

Pulled by the F-250! If the car breaks I can race the truck!

 

hmmm. Doubt St. Louis will be in this summers travel plans. Our local Ford contingent will be points racing two Fords this summer, an '85 T-Bird with a 501 stroker, and a '67 Comet with a 514 stroker. Good luck racing the stang, though. I never have made one of the big Ford shows, got to do that sometime.

 

A friend (well a dodge friend) has a 1/2 ton dodge hemi chipped, short tires 3.9? gears runs 13.9 to 14.2 in 1/4, with NOS it runs 12.9.Real numbers not fond memory. Stock it ran high 14.s not really fast but don't see many/any stock FORD trucks with 460s running less than 16.0. Had a '70 Mark III was fun but still only mid high 15s at best thats as good as 80s Monte SS,80s 'stang GT auto, or lots of stuff but no rocket ship. My '78 diamond jubilee Mark V would run to 125 plus though.LOL

 

i also have a 70 mark 3 let's take that new hemi and have it in a 3/4 ton 4x4 dodge truck with 2.75 ratio rearend and auto trans like the lincoln and see which one win's the lincoln would eat it up

 

Lets start with actual weight of your car Ford lists a 1970 Mark III at 4739 lbs.
Now the great race lincoln wants to run 4x4 3/4 ton Dodge trucks with 2.75 gears and an automatic.It beat a GT why now run 4x4s .My friends "Hemi" is an automatic. I can submit time slips for the Dodge though I hate to touch things with Dodge germs on them, so all we need is some SUPERLINCOLN time slips.
Maybe to be fair if the truck has to run 2.75 gears the SUPERLINCOLN should run some 31 inch tall tires.

 

lol...this is good...see...you guys are taking this all wrong...if it was me..I PERSONALLY wouldn't even TRY to race a 1970 stinkin' lincoln, it's a 5,000lb LUXURY CAR....maybe if you had something like an old ford truck (early 70's or someting) with a 460 (and that's probably still lighter than that car), lwb, auto, 2wd, and then find a new hemi truck...lwb 2wd...and see who wins...no offence, but it think the dodge will win, unless your motor is in tip-top shape, it's going to be hard to get the horse power you it had from the factory...it's a motor that is 36 years old....they might have been "rockets" 10-15 years ago...i remember my dad talking about his 68 he used to have, stepside w/ 390-c6 2wd..."and that thing would roast a new mustang"....i don't think the new mustangs were very fast in 1986

 

[QUOTE=Mtthwvn73]lol...this is good...see...you guys are taking this all wrong...if it was me..I PERSONALLY wouldn't even TRY to race a 1970 stinkin' lincoln, it's a 5,000lb LUXURY CAR....maybe if you had something like an old ford truck (early 70's or someting) with a 460 (and that's probably still lighter than that car), lwb, auto, 2wd, and then find a new hemi truck...lwb 2wd...and see who wins...no offence, but it think the dodge will win, unless your motor is in tip-top shape, it's going to be hard to get the horse power you it had from the factory...it's a motor that is 36 years old....they might have been "rockets" 10-15 years ago...i remember my dad talking about his 68 he used to have, stepside w/ 390-c6 2wd..."and that thing would roast a new mustang"....i don't think the new mustangs were very fast in 1986[/QUOT

im not talking about running in the quater mile running from say 40 mph up over 100 let's run them for all out top speed and yes the 86 mustang was a good runner first year for fi 5.0. i see u don't know much about car's and as far as the eng being 36 years old what's that got to do with anything. my dad has a all stock 1962 chevy belair with the 409 2x4 eng would eat that new dodge for lunch and its all stock 44 years old.

 

Just bustin chops had a '70 Mark III,a 7& Diamond Jubilee Edition and a 86 LSC MArk VII.The 86 was the quickest but the 70 was just plain fun think the Lincoln would run pretty well against a loaded supercab 2 wheel Dodge though .Lets make this more interesting Dogge with new Hemi vs. 90s lightening.

 

I don't have any timed acceleration slips for either a Dodge 1500 Hemi pickup or a stock 460.

However the "Hemi" legend is probably close to about the best marketing I've seen in many a year. It's a street engine and the version in the truck, is equivelent to one of the 6 liter V8 options in the GM line.

Good engine, has good power, behaves in front of the children, but is not a refugee from Garlits' Swamp Rat, Dragster.

It's in a heavy pick up.

As mentioned before I saw a new Hemi, quad cab, 2500 P/u run heads up, with a rusted out, mid 70's GM , 2500 Pick up, Camper Special, single cab, with a 454, at the 1/8 mile drags, this past summer.

The much vaunted Hemi pulled ahead of the old 454, at first. Then the 454 got traction, it's second wind, what ever and steamrolled by the Hemi, quite convincingly.

Did it more than once. Embarrasing for the local Dodge dealer as it was from his showroom stock.

But 454 cubes, even if it is low compression is going to put out lot's of low and mid range torque, more than 345 cubes of higher compression, I would think.

Weight? The extra cab of the hemi and all the modern crap a modern vehicle must tack on nowadays, also add weight, compared to a bare bones, 30 year old , single cab, pickup.

454- Probably better low to mid range torque..less weight...camper special prob. had 3.73s or 4.10s
Hemi-better peak hp...more weight..prob. 3.55s or 3.92s

The Hemi probably would of outrun the 454 after about 90 mph (peak hp/xtra tranny speeds), but who cares, in a 1/8 mile drag. Too late by then for the Hemi's peak power to have any advantage.

Now if you were to soup up both the Hemi and the 454..then no contest at any speed,. It would have to be the big rat.

So in answer to the question again. Yes, under certain conditions I would think an F250, single cab with a 460 and a savvy driver, could outrun a 2500 Hemi P/u, in a short, 1/8 mile P/U.

 

i don't know why u would say the 86 is faster than the 70 because i to had a 87 mark VII and my 70 eat it up u must had something wrong with yours. if u was running stock timeing seting's they don't run nere as good. all u have to do is bump the timeing up its like a whole different eng.