I had a Hemi spank our BMW a few weeks ago! He got the jump on me, and surprised me so bad I hit the rev limiter in 1st gear, but our BMW is a 528 wagon with a 5-speed... should hit 60 mph in the low seven seconds... that would make it quicker than the 460 in my F250HD or the 460 in my 1978 Mercury Marquis.

The Hemi truck was a 1/2 ton, regular cab, short bed 2wd.

I think lots of 460s could beat lots of Hemis though, and vice-versa... a '96 2wd, regular cab F250 would likely put a hurting on an extended cab, 4wd Hemi... but I wouldn't go picking any fights between a lightweigh Hemi and my 5900lb '97 extended cab, 4wd... even with a 5-speed.

 

remember the only thing that makes a "hemi" a hemi is the heads, but ide love to see the old hemis come back but we know the good ole epa will never let that happen...

 

Having owned many Fords from I6300 to 4.6 to 460 ... and a late model 911 ... I'll just *smile* and nod knowingly ... knowing I can be past 100 in 3rd in a little over ten seconds well on my way to 145 or 155 or ...? and hey, curves? bring 'em !!!

PS - played briefly with an 'older' new small block hemi in the 460 dually, empty of course ... it's all stock ... I had to run it hard but was ahead approaching the next light, near the top of the e4od's 2nd (4.11's) ... but we were in a 45 zone a better sense got us with the yellow.

"Porsche - Kills Bugs Fast!"

 

Yeah, the only thing "HEMI" about the new engines is the logo on the engine cover.

 

I have to be honest guys, a hemi did beat on me last month. It was a yellow short-box that was very close to the ground. If I didn't have my 450# topper on and another 800# of tools and hardware on my old 95 3/4 ton with 7.5L he might not have taken me by the couple of feet he had on me at the 60 m.p.h. point. Sorry guys!

 

Maybe. I went to some 1/8 mile drags in the summer. There was a race with a rust bucket of a '74 Chevy 2500 camper special with a 454, running vs a 2005 Dodge 1500 Hemi.

I thought the Hemi would run away with it. Not so. The old 454 couldn't get any traction at the start and the Hemi pulled it, at first.

Once the 454 hooked up it caught up, passed and put a couple of lengths between it and the Hemi.

The race was just outside a small country town, at the local airport, and the local Dodge dealer was running the Hemi. Boy, I bet he was embarrased.

I think a 460 in an old Ford from the same era could probably run similar to the 454. So yes, I think a 460 could out run a Hemi. Were talking cubes and bottom end and mid range torque with these old big blocks.

Sorry I had to use a Chevy example, to illustrate my point about a Ford, in a Ford website.

 

I HAVE A 1976 MERCURY MARQUIS WITH A 72 460 THAT WOULD SMOKE A NEW HEMI I SMOKED MY FRIENDS 1987 CORVETTE. FROM A DEAD STOP ALL THE WAY UP TO 120 MPH I DON'T KNOW THE TOP SPEED ON THE MERCURY YET. BUT IT WAS NOT DONE I LET OFF ON IT. I ALSO HAVE A 1970 LINCOLN MARK 3 THAT WE RUN AT 143 MPH. AND IT WASENT DONE EITHER I THINK THAT NEW HEMI IS A JOKE IT'S A FAR CRY FROM THE OLD 426 HEMI.

 

my buddy's father had a 460 and smoked a cross fuel injected or whatever it was that was in the vette like nothing and all he had done was puat a new throttle body on it

 

The Hemi I talked about in my first post has been a sad disappointment to me. It has been back to the dealer 5 times now for the same thing, over heating and using antifreeze. ( I could start a rant here but with my typing skills it would take 3 weeks to type all that has happened) Yesterday as I was letting the service manager know what I thought of the illustrious Hemi, he informed it was an excellent engine. I guess I now have to retract my thinking that my tired old 460 will beat a Hemi, since the dogge service dude said it was good. I stand corrected.

 

I have to disagree with the masses and say HELL NO! A stock EFI 460 is not going to hold a candle to a 1/2 ton Hemi p/u. Stock 1/2 ton EC and CC Hemi trucks are running 15s and the RCs are hitting low 15s. As far as the heavier 3/4 ton trucks i really havent seen enough of them running to say for sure, but i would guess low 16s or possibly high 15s. I would find it hard to believe a stock EFI 460 would get any better than low 17s (based on what i have seen here and personal experience).

I did however have the pleasure of winning against a 1/2 EC Hemi truck at the local 1/4mile track, but i have a few mods (50shot, no air filter @ track, straight pipe aft cat and 96 style alum bullet hole wheels).

i ran 15.7 against his 15.8 and i got a better reaction time. My best time without the juice is ~16.8.

Hope this sheds a realistic light.

Happy modding and hunting for those Hemis
eric <><

 

Have to agree with the previous post. We need to get some realism in this discussion. You may recall that the last few years of production, the stock 460 was not all that much horsepower-only around 245-265 hp. We can talk torque all we want, but if you run the 345 Hp Hemi Dodge in a lighter half ton truck, and the stock 460 is in a typical three quarter ton Ford, it's gonna get smoked. The rev's just ain't there. You can't spot someone 80 to 100 Hp in a heavier truck to boot and expect to win. You won't.

Stock you'll be handed your butt in most typical trucks if you've got the 460. We've got a '96 Ford 3/4 ton 460 automatic as our soil probe truck and we recently removed the 1500 lb Giddings hydraulic ram in back. Sorry to say, the Dodge will beat it. It ain't that close, either.

Want to win? Just build the 460 a little. Or be content knowing it's a much, much better truck motor than the Hemi Dodge anyway.

 

i think the factory under rates the horsepower on the 460's because. i have raced alot of stock eng's before that i know that was rated more horsepower than the 460 and still beat them.

 

also i will race any new stock dodge hemi with my all stock 1970 lincoln mark 3 with it's factory 460 365 hp 500 tq and it's 5200 pound's. with a 2.80 ratio rearend it will smoke the tire's for a block as for the hemi to beat this car that is a joke.

 

My comments were for trucks, for it is here the 460 made its reputation. Little more apples to oranges, there.

And if the Dodge Hemi is in the Charger, I'd take that over a 5200 lb car with a 460. You don't have enough horsepower and torque to spot him 1500+ lbs in weight. The revs make the hemi a good car motor.

460's a great motor. You just can't handicap yourself with that much weight and keep up.

 

well these 460's im talking about are not the newer efi junk as for rpm i have turned 5000 before. for those who has never had the good 460 1968 to 1971 don't know how good they are. it's a whole different 460 from the 1972 to 1997 you would just have to own one to know what im talking about.