Guess we'll need to wait until you pull that valve cover and have a look.
grinding when eccelerating
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I bought a Granada years ago that was sold to me cheap because it was "toast", but had a nice body and interior. It was an I6 and I pulled the valve cover.... HOLY CRAP - it was the worst gunked up engine I had every seen!! ( not like I've torn into a bunch, but a few.) It looked like you were making Rice Krispy squares with Coco Peebles in the pan!
Turned out the pushrods were supposed to have ***** on the ends and 5 of them were totally worn off. Cost $18 for a dozen new rods. Drove it for a year or two problem free after that. ( Wish I still had that car - I don't even see many on E-bay now).
Turned out the pushrods were supposed to have ***** on the ends and 5 of them were totally worn off. Cost $18 for a dozen new rods. Drove it for a year or two problem free after that. ( Wish I still had that car - I don't even see many on E-bay now).
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FE's oil through a dedicated hole going up to the rocker shaft, then out through the rocker shafts. Nothing goes through the pushrods.
Is this a constant grinding noise, or more of a cyclical type of ticking that increases with engine RPM?
Is this a constant grinding noise, or more of a cyclical type of ticking that increases with engine RPM?
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From: Spokane WA
Originally Posted by rusty70f100
Is this a constant grinding noise, or more of a cyclical type of ticking that increases with engine RPM?
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I wonder if it's a wrist pin? Old stock FE's are almost notorious for that.
I have a '76 F-250 highboy with the 390. this sound started a month ago and was only there when i first started the truck, but now it is there when i give it gas, then it goes away.
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thank you
Originally Posted by Icicle
Hang on there Corky.....
Are you talking about the sound I pointed out to you a few weeks ago when we ran to Carquest in your truck and it did it pulling out of the alley?
If so.....
It seems the idiot that told you it has something to do with the starter is, well, an idiot, and our good FTE friends who are not idiots are expanding on what someone told you, and its actually good advice if the starter was what was making noise
I wanna hear this sound again before you start throwing money at starters and stuff, I dont think thas whats wrong.....
Heres the deal guys, he has A NASTY noise coming from the Drivers side head on startup (at least it was only on startup last time I heard it) that actually sounds like a pushrod banging against something, when oil pressure builds up after startup, it disappears, almost like something is sticking.
If thats the noise this post is all about, STOP driving that truck until we can look at it, especially if its getting worse, we need to at least figure out whats going on, it may be as simple as pulling a valve cover and watching for a second to get a better idea whats going on. Im more aware of your personal situation a bit more than everyone else, and I know that isnt really an option, but drive no more than Abosolutely necessary
All that said, fire away guys........ This sound is a long long long ways away from the starter, unless Im wrong about what hes talking about.
Who are these idiots that keep telling you these things you always ask me?
Are you talking about the sound I pointed out to you a few weeks ago when we ran to Carquest in your truck and it did it pulling out of the alley?
If so.....
It seems the idiot that told you it has something to do with the starter is, well, an idiot, and our good FTE friends who are not idiots are expanding on what someone told you, and its actually good advice if the starter was what was making noise
I wanna hear this sound again before you start throwing money at starters and stuff, I dont think thas whats wrong.....
Heres the deal guys, he has A NASTY noise coming from the Drivers side head on startup (at least it was only on startup last time I heard it) that actually sounds like a pushrod banging against something, when oil pressure builds up after startup, it disappears, almost like something is sticking.
If thats the noise this post is all about, STOP driving that truck until we can look at it, especially if its getting worse, we need to at least figure out whats going on, it may be as simple as pulling a valve cover and watching for a second to get a better idea whats going on. Im more aware of your personal situation a bit more than everyone else, and I know that isnt really an option, but drive no more than Abosolutely necessary
All that said, fire away guys........ This sound is a long long long ways away from the starter, unless Im wrong about what hes talking about.
Who are these idiots that keep telling you these things you always ask me?
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It's allllrrrrright, us gearheads gotta stick together.
No mention of any misfire or rough running, makes me think the problem is not with the valves or lifters. Any gauge hooked up for oil pressure?
No mention of any misfire or rough running, makes me think the problem is not with the valves or lifters. Any gauge hooked up for oil pressure?
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no i have not done that yet, but i check the oil all the time and there are no leaks so far. it only has gone through a half a quirt of oil in like three months. the gauge in the control cluster says its good but cant really trust those.
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Yeah, they show up in the bottom of the drain pan. Easy to see as you pour off that last little bit.
You and Icicle will have to hook up a timing light and see if it knocks full time or half time: If it knocks every time the light flashes, it's in the crank/rods/pistons. If it knocks every other time the light flashes, it's in the valve train.
Wherever it is, sounds pretty bad.
Good luck, Mike
You and Icicle will have to hook up a timing light and see if it knocks full time or half time: If it knocks every time the light flashes, it's in the crank/rods/pistons. If it knocks every other time the light flashes, it's in the valve train.
Wherever it is, sounds pretty bad.
Good luck, Mike
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Here's a new idear.....does it have headers? Header gasket totally shot causing a "tick" sound upon acceleration? Manifolds? Cracked manifold giving same "tick"?
I couldnt imagine a pushrod making a grinding noise, that's the trouble with diagnosing over the internet. My old engine was SOOOO shot, cracked block let water into oil, oil foamed up and quit lubing valvetrain, in combination with some big cam, bend the rear pushrods into a banana shape, and I'll tell you, it sounded almost exactly the same as when I blew out paper header gaskets. Just putting another twist on things.
A grinding though?!? starter or tranny related is all I can think of. Again, more discpription please
I couldnt imagine a pushrod making a grinding noise, that's the trouble with diagnosing over the internet. My old engine was SOOOO shot, cracked block let water into oil, oil foamed up and quit lubing valvetrain, in combination with some big cam, bend the rear pushrods into a banana shape, and I'll tell you, it sounded almost exactly the same as when I blew out paper header gaskets. Just putting another twist on things.
A grinding though?!? starter or tranny related is all I can think of. Again, more discpription please
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From: Spokane WA
Originally Posted by Hypoid
It's allllrrrrright, us gearheads gotta stick together.
No mention of any misfire or rough running, makes me think the problem is not with the valves or lifters. Any gauge hooked up for oil pressure?
No mention of any misfire or rough running, makes me think the problem is not with the valves or lifters. Any gauge hooked up for oil pressure?
The wrist pin idea is interesting thinking, but not something hes gonna wanna hear....
Originally Posted by mark-I6
sorry every one, i get ahead of my self sometimes and dont give ALL the needed info, thanks kevin for jumping in and helping me out
Originally Posted by hypoid
You and Icicle will have to hook up a timing light and see if it knocks full time or half time: If it knocks every time the light flashes, it's in the crank/rods/pistons. If it knocks every other time the light flashes, it's in the valve train
Originally Posted by 74fordtruck
Here's a new idear.....does it have headers? Header gasket totally shot causing a "tick" sound upon acceleration? Manifolds? Cracked manifold giving same "tick"?
Mark is just getting into this great hobby of ours, and is trying hard to learn, it was nice to hear about this thread late and read it to find people are still trying to help newer guys on here
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From: Spokane WA
Originally Posted by Hypoid
You and Icicle will have to hook up a timing light and see if it knocks full time or half time: If it knocks every time the light flashes, it's in the crank/rods/pistons. If it knocks every other time the light flashes, it's in the valve train.
