Nitrogen in Tires anyone?
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Dryer gas with no moisture in it.
Less subject to expansion/contraction giving you more consistant pressure over temperature range.
No oxygen, thus no oxidizing breakdown of the rubber internally.
Virtually all commercial and business jets use this gas because of these properties.
I think that good ol' AIR has worked pretty well in passenger vehicles for enough years to be pretty proven as an acceptable choice. That's what I'm going to stick with.
If, on the other hand, you need the better properties afforded over a temperature range of +125F to -40F&C, and altitudes up to 51,000 feet, then dry nitrogen would be the best bet for YOU!
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Less subject to expansion/contraction giving you more consistant pressure over temperature range.
No oxygen, thus no oxidizing breakdown of the rubber internally.
Virtually all commercial and business jets use this gas because of these properties.
I think that good ol' AIR has worked pretty well in passenger vehicles for enough years to be pretty proven as an acceptable choice. That's what I'm going to stick with.
If, on the other hand, you need the better properties afforded over a temperature range of +125F to -40F&C, and altitudes up to 51,000 feet, then dry nitrogen would be the best bet for YOU!
Pop
Last edited by SpringerPop; 11-28-2005 at 11:12 AM.
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Here's a whole thread on it.
The search feature works wonders.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=431582
The search feature works wonders.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...d.php?t=431582
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Don't get confused by the "nitrogen isn't affected by heat" claim. ALL gasses, nitrogen included, must follow basic laws of physics. That is, when they heat up, they expand predictably. When they cool down, they also contract predictably.
What makes nitrogen so useful in tires is threefold:
1) Nitrogen molecules are a little bigger than oxygen molecules (according to a handy-dandy physics manual, about 7% bigger), so they don't migrate through tire walls quite as easily or as quickly.
2) When you use nitrogen, there is no oxygen on the inside of the tire, which eliminates tire oxydation from the inside (doesn't affect oxydation from the outside... usually tread wear or tread oxydation kills mine - never had a problem with internal oxydation causing a tire failure.)
3) And, if you live in a climate with great changes in temperature, nitrogen gas has no moisture in it. Moisture will condense out of the air in a cold tire at low temperature, lowering the pressure considerably more than the normal gas pressure decrease with temperature. So, you refill to the correct pressure. Then, as you drive, the tire heats up, the moisture evaporates, and the tire pressure increases above spec. So, you are either driving with tire pressure too low (when tires are cold) or tire pressure too high (after they warm up). Not to mention that the moisture can freeze out of the air in very, very cold temperatures.
I live in Southern california. Nitrogen would be a waste of money here. If I lived in North Dakota, I might think otherwise.
What makes nitrogen so useful in tires is threefold:
1) Nitrogen molecules are a little bigger than oxygen molecules (according to a handy-dandy physics manual, about 7% bigger), so they don't migrate through tire walls quite as easily or as quickly.
2) When you use nitrogen, there is no oxygen on the inside of the tire, which eliminates tire oxydation from the inside (doesn't affect oxydation from the outside... usually tread wear or tread oxydation kills mine - never had a problem with internal oxydation causing a tire failure.)
3) And, if you live in a climate with great changes in temperature, nitrogen gas has no moisture in it. Moisture will condense out of the air in a cold tire at low temperature, lowering the pressure considerably more than the normal gas pressure decrease with temperature. So, you refill to the correct pressure. Then, as you drive, the tire heats up, the moisture evaporates, and the tire pressure increases above spec. So, you are either driving with tire pressure too low (when tires are cold) or tire pressure too high (after they warm up). Not to mention that the moisture can freeze out of the air in very, very cold temperatures.
I live in Southern california. Nitrogen would be a waste of money here. If I lived in North Dakota, I might think otherwise.
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i got my new tires this summer at tire warehouse... they have a machine that runs all night that seperates the nitrogen out of the air and fills a storage tank... for a small fee they filled all my tires and they will check them whenever... plus i get free rotation for the life of the tires and i got the insurance for road hazards... good thing i did... i got a HUGE nail in one of my tires a week after i got my new tires... they fixed it right up and filled the tire back up with nitrogen... no charge...!
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Originally Posted by johnny8
i got my new tires this summer at tire warehouse... they have a machine that runs all night that seperates the nitrogen out of the air and fills a storage tank... for a small fee they filled all my tires and they will check them whenever... plus i get free rotation for the life of the tires and i got the insurance for road hazards... good thing i did... i got a HUGE nail in one of my tires a week after i got my new tires... they fixed it right up and filled the tire back up with nitrogen... no charge...!
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Originally Posted by 1997F-350
that is a serious case of psd love right there johnny!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by superrangerman2002
Wow,
I can't believe what I'm hearing!
The whole Nitrogen thing is nothing more than an expensive sham.
Any body want to take a stab at what the air you are breathing is mostly made up of?
Com'mon guys, I know that you guys are better than this!
I can't believe what I'm hearing!
The whole Nitrogen thing is nothing more than an expensive sham.
Any body want to take a stab at what the air you are breathing is mostly made up of?
Com'mon guys, I know that you guys are better than this!