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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Removing frame rivots

Come on guys, theres got to be a good way yo remove frame rivets!! I'm tired of beating and beating and beating and well you get the idea. I've been knocking the heads off with air chisel then grinding flush. Then (you probably know whats next) beat and beat and beat until they pop out. Only 20 to go.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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I remember doing that once upon a time, and I ground them flush, then drilled them out pretty far, and then beat them out. Once the center of the rivet is drilled out, it collapses and goes through the hole easier.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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Drill first

I always like to drill them first because sometimes they like to spin before you get all the way through if you take the head of first. Then it becomes loads of fun!!!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Plowdude
Come on guys, theres got to be a good way yo remove frame rivets!! I'm tired of beating and beating and beating and well you get the idea. I've been knocking the heads off with air chisel then grinding flush. Then (you probably know whats next) beat and beat and beat until they pop out. Only 20 to go.
Plow dude,

Why not try heating them up then use the air chisel to cut the heads off. Then use the air chisel with a point bit to push them through the hole.

I have never tried this on rivets, but when you heat up the metal it would be softer to chisel.. I have done this to bolts on a plow frame that were rusted.. I just cut the end off then air chiselled them out. Took maybe 5 minutes a bolt.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by gfunkatoa
I always like to drill them first because sometimes they like to spin before you get all the way through if you take the head of first. Then it becomes loads of fun!!!
Good point! And, "a little bit off the top" should give a good spot to center-punch it.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Plow dude,

Why not try heating them up then use the air chisel to cut the heads off. Then use the air chisel with a point bit to push them through the hole.

I have never tried this on rivets, but when you heat up the metal it would be softer to chisel.. I have done this to bolts on a plow frame that were rusted.. I just cut the end off then air chiselled them out. Took maybe 5 minutes a bolt.
Im afraid to heat anything up and weaken the frame or brackets.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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This was posted a while back.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...rinding+rivets

Some good discussion on frame metal, heating, welding etc. I think we concluded that these trucks do not have heat-treated frames but it's best to be carefull when using the torch.
Frank
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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i just have to ask, why do all you guys go through all the trouble to get rid of the rivets in your frame??? unless they have become lose(which under most circumstances isn't the case) leave them alone, and just tack weld them on each side, incase they may become loose in the furture. hell there are still rivets holding up the golden gate bridge which has seen more stress put on them than the ones in the frames of our trucks ever will. why make it harder than it has to be
 
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Old Nov 7, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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One reason I took some of my rivets out was so I could remove the crossmembers or overload hangers to clean and paint. Once I ground off the head it was relatively easy to knock it out with a bfh and punch. One change I would do next time is to drill the rivet hole out a little larger to put in a slightly bigger bolt, so it'd good and snug.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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Have you got a bare frame, or is the truck still together?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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In the past when I had to remove them I would grind about half of the
head off, leaving a flat head to drill on and I would drill starting with a small
bit first and then step up in size slowly and they have always been a
( Breeze )!





 
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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The reason im removing the rivets is to clean and paint behind brackets and cross members just like 460f250 said.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2005 | 10:41 AM
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Here is how I got my big frame rivets out-took 5 minutes each. Go to Harbor freight and get their big grinder with 10 inch wheel. Fire it up and lock the trigger. Bring the big wheel in parallel to the frame and grind down head flush with the frame. If you do it carefully you wont even nick the frame but will shine it a little, then take a punch and knock the tail back through and out. You'll be glad you got that grinder.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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That's basically what I did, only I used a 5". Still went quick. I only did a few of the crossmembers and such in the back, like the one in back of the rear gas tank. Sure made getting the tank in and out a breeze. Personally I'm too nervous to remove them all, I think the rivets are just tighter.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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Here is a site that I found that has instructions for doing a frame off restoration with instructions. It is a very helpful site.

http://www.73-79fordtrucks.com/frameoffrestoration.html
 
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