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Old 05-22-2010, 01:57 PM
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Jeff as you know it's a 49 F1 V8 serial no 219970 - fairly early '49.

Firewall color code of 10 I have for beige in my notes, but it could be wrong. What color do you have up under the dash, up under the kick panels or back around the gas tank?

For yellow, I have code 16, but my notes are pretty sketchy and I stand to be corrected. Please let me know what you find.

The truck was built at the Richmond, CA plant on August 4, the 5672'nd rig down the line.
 
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ok guys,
1. it was registered as a 50 when i bought it(is now reg. as a 49-was up to the inspecting trooper)
2. 97 HC 278900 KC
3. bed is raised panel
4. i believe bed is original
5. unsure if it's 3 or 4 spd.
6. floor shift
7. firewall stamp-5 KC 6C 449
small back window, original color is anybody's guess(truck is yellow, but appears to have been repainted-i am told it was a service/parts truck for a local caterpillar dealership). it could possibly have been black. where paint is chipped, or worn off, there is very dark color underneath. truck has only one outside mirror, one windshield wiper, one sun visor. no plate on inside of glove box door, or on driver or passenger door. vin plate under hood is in good shape. haven't checked frame stamping yet. appears to have original flat six motor. is not seized-up, and i hope to get it running this summer. it's all there. differential tag reads W 41/11
what do i have guys?
thanks-dave
 
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Old 05-22-2010, 10:32 PM
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Hi Dave,
I'd say your truck could be either 49 or 50 according to the serial - it's right at the cutoff...226 flathead six cyl half-ton

If you find the cast numbers on the trans case we can tell if it's 3 spd HD (T87D) or 4 spd (59-7006)

Firewall: 5 is the code for Sheridan Blue, Kansas City plant, 6th of March, 449th vehicle down the line.
 
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1 - Registered a 1948 (but actually a 1949 or early 1950?)
2 - 98RC309096
3 - Raised Panel
4 - Original bed
5 - 4spd (not the original, but correct for my flathead)
6 - Floor shift
7 - DLA J43 26

Not sure about the firewall stamp. The "J" could possibly be a "U", but I think its a "J". Based on other ones I've seen in this thread, it doesn't make much sense. I'll check again, but any ideas?
 
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DL - Dallas TX plant
A - black
J - September production
43 26 - I don't have a clue

Dallas didn't follow the same pattern for production codes that the other plants did.
 
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thanks mtflat! seems like most things i thought i knew about this truck are wrong. thought it was a 1948, nope. it appears that the original color was yellow, but i guess not. the truck was from texas, so dallas makes sense.

one correction on that firewall number: the 4 is probably a 1
DLA J13 26

So would that mean September 13th, truck 26 of the day?

also, with the serial number being so high, would we declare this a 1950? or is it a 1949?
 
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It's close enough to the break over that you could call it either a 49 or 50. The break appears to be somewhere around 280 - 300,000. Some 49's were titled in '50 and thus are considered 50's depending on the state. Other variations are common as blocks of serial numbers appear to have been given to a plant and used as they produced trucks. So from plant to plant you'll find exceptions and not much is completly chronological.

The actual records disappeared in a fire at Ford in 1967 so we're putting this back together on circumstantial evidence. It's an art, not a science - we've been working at it for about 10 years now but there's still big gaps in the info.

Usually the day appeared in front of the month code but as I said, Dallas kinda did their own thing with production codes. I think you could call it Sept 13.

For color you might check behind the gas tank, under the dash or behind the kick panels for traces of the original color.
 
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A very, very belated thank you for your excellent response to my VIN questions in Aug 2007!!! Asked, checked back and had "technical difficulties" with the website, gave up, and just now resolved to get back online.

In your very helpful response, you asked if my color code was PE or just E for Vermillion Red. Sadly, I cannot tell if that faint code before the "E" is a P (my truck was apparently built in Norfolk plant) and I do not yet have any confirmation of its paint color. It is now standard 1950 blue, and I've not yet feathered the nice paint to see what's underneath.

You also asked where in NC am I. Atlantic Beach on the Southern Outer Banks. Nice area if you like chasing rust....
 
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thanks mtflat. did not know my truck was blue originally! hopefully can get started working on it now that better half is out of hospital and recouperating. been a hectic four weeks, now maybe getting back to normal.
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oh, by the way, since production date is 6th of march, i guess my truck is probably an early 1950? if it was a 49, wouldn't the date be later, like maybe november, or december?
guess it really doesn't matter, since it's titled as a 49. i don't plan on changing the title.
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Thumbs up Sheridan Blue Paint Code

Originally Posted by texan2004
Jeff,

I have never come across a paint code of 8. That said, I don't have a numeric paint code ofr Sheridan Blue, Palisades Green, or Primer Only.

The KC indicates your truck was built in Kansas City. The 17U is a date code. You truck was built on the 17th of some month. That letter should be from A-M except that the letter "I" was skipped to avoid confusion with the digit 1 I suspect. Any chance it could be a "C" or a "D" or a"G" or a "J". It would help if we had the VIN #.

BTW, I really like your old F3.

Carl


Sheridan Blue Paint Code for the 53 F100 is Color Code B/Duco 864/Dulux 93-81501. FYI
 
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Hi.
Here is what I have for you.

49 F1
97HC231385
4 speed, on the floor
I think it is raised panel...still unsure of what that means
looks like wood floor, overtopped with metal, now rusting

firewall: 1 0 R H I I H b 4 4 0

As I have read in this thread, the b might be a 6

small rear window
 
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Originally Posted by Beebol
Hi.
Here is what I have for you.

49 F1
97HC231385
4 speed, on the floor
I think it is raised panel...still unsure of what that means
looks like wood floor, overtopped with metal, now rusting

firewall: 1 0 R H I I H b 4 4 0

As I have read in this thread, the b might be a 6

small rear window
Firewall:
Color code 10 - can you find the original color? under the dash or behind the kick panels. I have conflicting info that it could be either gray or beige.
Assembly plant RH - Richmond, CA
Assembly date IIH - 11 August
Vehicle down the line - 6440

Bedside raised panel - looking at the inside of the box walls you should see a 'panel' that protrudes outward about 1/2" The fenders have a corresponding notch to fit the panel.
Smooth bedside - inside box wall is smooth and not indented
 
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Okay guys. Here's my 49. Any info is appreciated. I have a 50 F1 too (my wife is in utter shock). Somebody painted the firewall and I can't get good info on it. Maybe later with it.

1. 1949 F1. Appears to be original black color.
2. 98RC 224926 LOU
3. Raised panel bed
4. Bed definitely looks original
5. 3 speed on the floor
6. Floor
7. Firewall says "LUH53 L161J"


Any help with this one will be appreciated.
 
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:16 AM
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Doc, maybe Carl has more on Louisville trucks....

The serial number is easy: Half-ton V8 produced in Louisville, KY

I'm scratching my head over your firewall code.
Number for paint code is missing at the front of the string.... black was code 3
LU is Louisville assembly plant
H is August build, but it should have a number before the H for the day of the month.
53 doesn't fit the pattern

L161J Louisville's unique code for vehicle number down the line

Sorry, this is the best I can do without more info. Nice collection you got going!!
 


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