1948-1960: 1949/1950 VIN # Cut off
#121
01-16-2006, 11:41 PM
Originally Posted by texan2004
Mike,
Thanks for the information. I really do appreciate it. Your truck certainly appears to be a 1950 albeit an early one. Do you still have the original 6 and do you intend to reuse it? Just curious. Good luck with it either way.
The fiewall stampings appear to have been some sort of plant specific coding. Some plants used a similar format and some either used none at all or something different from the next plant. Go figure. They all appaear to provide similar information. I will do my best to break yours down.
1CKC27C2-41
1C = Any chance the C is a 6 and the origianl color was Chrme Yellow? It would jive with what we believe to be true. This is usually the location of waht we believe to be the paint code with this format of firewall stamping and 16 = chrome yellow best we can tell. If it is indeed a 1C, I'm not sure what it would indicate.
KC = KC assembly plant
27C = Build date of March 27, 1950 (Remember, model years didn't start the previous June like they do today) This would appear to be a valid date given your VIN #.
2-41 = Not real certain. The generally held belief has been that these last characters are some sort of plant specfic sequence # but I do not recall ever seeing a hyphen before. Any chance the hyphen is part of a 4. These #'s were not always stamped in very well and can be difficult to make out.
Another possiblilty is that the 2 goes with the C and you have a build date of March 2, 1950. In that case, I don't know what the 27 would indicate. I suspect the hyphen is part of a 4 that may not be legible.
Hope this is of some help or interest. Again. thanks for the information. I really do appreciate it.
Carl G.
Thanks for the information. I really do appreciate it. Your truck certainly appears to be a 1950 albeit an early one. Do you still have the original 6 and do you intend to reuse it? Just curious. Good luck with it either way.
The fiewall stampings appear to have been some sort of plant specific coding. Some plants used a similar format and some either used none at all or something different from the next plant. Go figure. They all appaear to provide similar information. I will do my best to break yours down.
1CKC27C2-41
1C = Any chance the C is a 6 and the origianl color was Chrme Yellow? It would jive with what we believe to be true. This is usually the location of waht we believe to be the paint code with this format of firewall stamping and 16 = chrome yellow best we can tell. If it is indeed a 1C, I'm not sure what it would indicate.
KC = KC assembly plant
27C = Build date of March 27, 1950 (Remember, model years didn't start the previous June like they do today) This would appear to be a valid date given your VIN #.
2-41 = Not real certain. The generally held belief has been that these last characters are some sort of plant specfic sequence # but I do not recall ever seeing a hyphen before. Any chance the hyphen is part of a 4. These #'s were not always stamped in very well and can be difficult to make out.
Another possiblilty is that the 2 goes with the C and you have a build date of March 2, 1950. In that case, I don't know what the 27 would indicate. I suspect the hyphen is part of a 4 that may not be legible.
Hope this is of some help or interest. Again. thanks for the information. I really do appreciate it.
Carl G.
This is a customer truck. I understand that he paid something like $4K to have the six rebuilt 15 or so years ago. Don't know what his plans are.
Firewall stamp:
Typical electronic photo under fluorescents: looks a lot rusty than it is. The color rendition is fairly good; my eye sees it a little creamier, but certainly not chrome yellow. This is the predominant color of the truck: door jams, under the cardboard "upholstery", under the inner firewall insulator.
Mike
#122
01-17-2006, 10:04 AM
Thanks for the picture Mike,
I'd have asked the same questions Carl did o/b data collected.
This one may have been part of a fleet paint job (special order) OR does anyone know what Sunland Beige looks like?
One point that's interesting is the difference between the first two 'C' stampings and the third (more round)
Tim
I'd have asked the same questions Carl did o/b data collected.
This one may have been part of a fleet paint job (special order) OR does anyone know what Sunland Beige looks like?
One point that's interesting is the difference between the first two 'C' stampings and the third (more round)
Tim
#124
01-17-2006, 07:14 PM
How about 10KC? The numbers were stamped by Son of Kong, but he seems to have had the second digit at an angle.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...102640.520.390
or backside (I took a little too much paint off):
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...102642.520.390
The "dash" that I reported was just a scratch that disappeared while cleaning.
Mike
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...102640.520.390
or backside (I took a little too much paint off):
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...102642.520.390
The "dash" that I reported was just a scratch that disappeared while cleaning.
Mike
Last edited by IB Tim; 03-10-2006 at 05:51 AM.
#125
01-17-2006, 07:19 PM
#127
01-17-2006, 09:07 PM
Originally Posted by shawn49
as i promised in one of my threads... hopefully this is all of it, i had to clean the tag up with some scotch brite
7H 236192 R10
is that all of it?
7H 236192 R10
is that all of it?
This looks like a partial VIN. The Vin # should be in 3 different locations.
1 - Vin Plate in the flove biox door. open the glove box door anbd it should be rtight there. If not, there will be some remnants of it like 4 small holes where the tag was screwed in.
2 - Vin Tag on the firewall. Passenger side up high in the eingine comaprtment.
3 - Frame rail stamping. The Vin # should also be stamped into the frame rail on the passenger side somehwere in the enigne comaprtment and probably just forward of the battery box.
A - There is also a set of numbers stampoed into the firewall (not onto a tag but directly into the fiewall. This will be an alpah/numeric set of characters. Could be large, could be small, may not be there at all. They weren't always stamped very well, deep, or evenly - thus they can be very ahrd to read. We are very interested in this number. We amy be able to give you the assembly palnt and build date and perhaps the original color.
B - Also, does your truck have the small sindow like the 48-50's or the larger rear window like the 51/52's. There is an old urban legend that says that some late 50's came with thelarger rear window. We haven't found any yet but we keep looking.
C - What transmission do you have and where is the shifter (column or floor)? The column shift foirst showed up in late 1950.
D - Does your bed have tghe raised panels on the side of the bed with rounded stake pockets or do you have the flat sides with squared off stake pockets?? The falt side beds came about in late 50.
#128
01-18-2006, 11:21 PM
Texan
I have a small back window
and the original color is meadow green cause I found green paint behind gas tank and other areas.
The block heater I believe was just added on ,it is an inline one that someone cut in the bottom of the right radiaotor hose and then goes to the heater.
The transmission is a four speed.
¨^Colter¨^
I have a small back window
and the original color is meadow green cause I found green paint behind gas tank and other areas.
The block heater I believe was just added on ,it is an inline one that someone cut in the bottom of the right radiaotor hose and then goes to the heater.
The transmission is a four speed.
¨^Colter¨^
#129
01-19-2006, 01:26 PM
Originally Posted by FordPUs
... and the original color is meadow green cause I found green paint behind gas tank and other areas. ...
#131
01-27-2006, 07:01 PM
#132
01-27-2006, 08:44 PM
Glad you could save it. If the engine frozen up as I would suspect it to be? Take alook in my gallery and you can takle a look at one I pulled from the woods after sitting since 1969.
Oh yea. - Welcome to FTE and let us know if we can be of any help. Appreicate the VIN #. Wehn you get a chance, an you check the firewall to see if there is a number stamped into it. We amy be able to tell you more about the truck. Some don't have the stamping so if it's not there don't spend too much time looking.
Oh yea. - Welcome to FTE and let us know if we can be of any help. Appreicate the VIN #. Wehn you get a chance, an you check the firewall to see if there is a number stamped into it. We amy be able to tell you more about the truck. Some don't have the stamping so if it's not there don't spend too much time looking.
Last edited by IB Tim; 01-28-2006 at 07:05 AM.
#133
01-28-2006, 03:44 PM
See my gallery-48 f2
I posted some pics of the 1948 F-2 in my gallery. Take a look and tell me what you think. The engine number is 1HA6050. I have not tried to turn it yet. There is an extra carb sitting on top of the engine. It appears someone was trying to replace the carb when they ditched it long ago, so I hope the engine is not frozen. The crankcase has clean oil in it. The tag has a stamping called "Branch" that is stamped "DAL" and there is a spray painted date under the hood that appears to be "July 29 1948" Original color seems to be army green underneath the rust. Where would I find the firewall stamping? Do you have any idea what type of axle that is?
Rob
Rob
#134
01-29-2006, 12:34 AM
Looks like a solid project - sure is fun to figure out what these trucks have done in the past.
The 'engine' number is actually just a part number for the head. About all the engine number would have been is 7HA. Your's appears to be a rebuilt '51 (1HA) or at least the head is from a 51.
The green paint traces look to be whats left of sun-bleached meadow green - one of 5 colors that year.
The F2 rear end is Ford's split housing, spiral bevel axle with a tapered shaft pinion.
If they're stamped, the firewall may have production numbers/letters that help figure out what you have. Found in a variety of locations on the firewall above the engine or it can be entirely absent.
The stenciled date is neat - my 48 F1 had 11-11-48 stenciled in yellow paint on the cowl above the seam.
The 'engine' number is actually just a part number for the head. About all the engine number would have been is 7HA. Your's appears to be a rebuilt '51 (1HA) or at least the head is from a 51.
The green paint traces look to be whats left of sun-bleached meadow green - one of 5 colors that year.
The F2 rear end is Ford's split housing, spiral bevel axle with a tapered shaft pinion.
If they're stamped, the firewall may have production numbers/letters that help figure out what you have. Found in a variety of locations on the firewall above the engine or it can be entirely absent.
The stenciled date is neat - my 48 F1 had 11-11-48 stenciled in yellow paint on the cowl above the seam.
#135
01-29-2006, 07:44 PM
Marfa,
The stenciled date is your truck's birthday. DAL means it was built at the Dallas assembly plant sp congrats - your truck is a Texan too.. With the date stenclield on the firewall, I suspect you don't have anyting stamped into the firewall but take a look and see. It may be there. As MTFlat stated, soem had them and some did not. Thanks for the additional information. I will add it to your line in the registry.
The stenciled date is your truck's birthday. DAL means it was built at the Dallas assembly plant sp congrats - your truck is a Texan too.. With the date stenclield on the firewall, I suspect you don't have anyting stamped into the firewall but take a look and see. It may be there. As MTFlat stated, soem had them and some did not. Thanks for the additional information. I will add it to your line in the registry.