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Old 05-14-2018, 08:30 PM
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I've decided that I would like to add a few more items to my database. I would like to add a column for original steel or wood bed, Orginal Cab Lights (Large Trucks), and another one for if yours came original with passenger side mirror. If anyone has any info they can share I'm current on passed pages of info, Just need what you know

I've been collecting this other data for a while:
Series:
Serial Number:
Assembly Plant:
Firewall Stamp:
Firewall Stencil:
Color:
Built Date:
Engine:
Trans:
Column or Floor:
Window Size (Small / Large):
Bed Sides (Raised / Smooth):
Heater:
Wipers (Single / Dual)
Sun Visor (Single / Dual)
Radio
Dome Light
Cab Lights: NEW
Bed Floor: NEW
Passenger Side Outside Mirror: NEW
 
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1950 Paint colors
1950 Color Codes - Ford Paint Cross-Reference

Thanks for the pics and guessing from them, I'd say your complete truck was originally Silvertone Gray but you can decide for yourself. Paint colors have a part number, but there is no corresponding code from the firewall.

1950 truck colors included Vermillion (Red), Raven Black, Palisade Green, Meadow Green, Sheridan Blue, Silvertone Gray, Birch Gray, Dover Gray, Sunland Beige and Prime.

The column shift came out in 1950 trucks. The overdrive trans is fairly rare but not unheard of. The black paint looks odd to me - perhaps touched up at some time? There's a lot of overspray in areas I wouldn't expect to see it... and if our info is correct, it lists the same paint code as the whole truck. ????
 
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Whole truck is in middle of a full resto just trying to decide if I want to go back with original color and how rare it is with the OD trans. Also both have single wipers and dual mirrors also both have heaters not sure on factory radio for either.
 
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:33 AM
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Yes same paint code for both trucks Iíll try and get a pic of both firewall stamps
 
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Originally Posted by texan2004 View Post
As suggested by George, the purpose of this thread is to try and determine what the VIN sequence # cut off is between the 1949 and 1950 Ford Trucks. It would also be a good opportunity to try and identify the VIN # cut-off for other little 1950 oddities like the raised panel bed being converted to a flat panel bed and the floor shift three speed versus column shift three speed.

Best way to do this is probably to ask for the following information:

1 - Year truck is registered as (or believed to be)
2 - VIN # (The whole thing including the 98RC, 98RD, etc.)
3 - Bed - Raised Panel or flat panel
4 - Is this the original bed
5 - Transmission
6 - Column shift or floor shift
7 - # stamped into the firewall if you have one.

?'s 3-6 may not be relavent if the truck has had major mods but if you know anything about what was there it would be helpful. I'll be sure to keep results updated. I need to figure out how to set up a link to the spreadsheet or data base I use.

Participation is obviously voluntary but would be greatly appreciated. Any other information on the truck you may want to provide would also be welcomed.

Sugggestions for other information to collect are also being welcomed.

Thanks,

Carl Gustafson - a.k.a Texan 2004
I have a 49/50 (not sure). I'm trying to get the correct year to title the truck. VIN number is
*97HD 323031*
Cowl# AKC15J200
Model# WBD
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks, Bill
 
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cowboyehman View Post
I have a 49/50 (not sure). I'm trying to get the correct year to title the truck. VIN number is
*97HD 323031*
Cowl# AKC15J200
Model# WBD
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks, Bill
Hi Bill, welcome to the forum! I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to help. According to your data, it looks like you have a late '49 F2 truck originally equipped with the 226 6 cylinder engine, black in color, scheduled for build September 15, 1949 in Kansas City. I something doesn't sound right, let me know. If others here with more accurate data find me incorrect, they'll let us know. Start a new thread with pics of your truck and say hi when you get a chance.

1949-50 trucks used the same serial prefix 9, so we can only go by the consecutive unit number to figure a timeline, combined with the date code stamped on the firewall. I found an old thread with another Kansas City truck built late November 1948 with a consec number of 165187. Assuming consistent construction for another 10 months, that would put us pretty close to 323000. Bingo.
 
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Hi Bill, welcome to the forum! I'm going to go out on a limb here and try to help. According to your data, it looks like you have a late '49 F2 truck originally equipped with the 226 6 cylinder engine, black in color, scheduled for build September 15, 1949 in Kansas City. I something doesn't sound right, let me know. If others here with more accurate data find me incorrect, they'll let us know. Start a new thread with pics of your truck and say hi when you get a chance.
Thanks for the information. I've checked a few other sites and get mixed information. That will help me out a lot, as all the paperwork I have says 48 on it, and I knew it was not on 48. I just want to be able to title it with the right year. I'm still a little confused about the 4th digit being a D. I know the truck is an F2 but nothing lists the D as a model distinguisher.
 
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Thanks for the information. I've checked a few other sites and get mixed information. That will help me out a lot, as all the paperwork I have says 48 on it, and I knew it was not on 48. I just want to be able to title it with the right year. I'm still a little confused about the 4th digit being a D. I know the truck is an F2 but nothing lists the D as a model distinguisher.
4th digit codes
C=F1
D=F2
Y=F3
T=F4-6
 
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Wayne has your details described perfectly. Nice job!
 
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Thanks for the help. I got the paperwork started for the new title. Can't wait to get started on the project.
 
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Looking thru the data I have your truck built Sept 15, another built Sept 20 and a third built Sept 21 and a 4th on Sept 23...

Kansas City produced 80 trucks between yours on the 15th and the next on the 20th, then 22 more between the 20th and 21st and an additional 70 by the 23 of Sept.

These specific trucks on the 15th and 20th were Black, the 21st truck was Palisade Green and the truck on the 23 was Vermillion Red.

Fun stuff, eh?
 
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1949 vin?



 
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I have a f1 sold to me with no title as a 1948. I know itís a 1949 based off of searches but Iíd like as much info as I can in this truck. It seems to have every option available and a 4speed tranny which looks original but Iím pretty sure wasnít an option. The vin is 98rc* 390432* kc and the stamp above the hood hinge looks like A KC 18 L 149. Can anybody help me out with finding more info on this old truck?
 
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Originally Posted by JebStuart1005 View Post
98rc 390432* kc and the stamp above the hood hinge looks like A KC 18 L 149. Can anybody help me out with finding more info on this old truck?
98RC 390432

9 = 1949 or 1950
8R = V8
C = 1/2 Ton (F1)
390432 = Serial Number



A KC 18 L 149

a = Raven Black
KC = Kansas City
18 L = November 18, 1950... I think this should be an E not a L... The would make it built on May 18, 1950
149 = Down the line...
 
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JebStuart1005, Other info about your truck would be useful too
I've been collecting this other data for a while:
Firewall Stamp:
Firewall Stencil:
Color:
Built Date:
Engine:
Trans:
Column or Floor:
Window Size (Small / Large):
Bed Sides (Raised / Smooth):
Heater:
Wipers (Single / Dual)
Sun Visor (Single / Dual)
Radio
Dome Light
Cab Lights
Bed Floor
Passenger Side Outside Mirror

Any addition information about your truck would be great info to add to database

 

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