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Old 05-17-2011, 10:14 AM
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1948-1960: 1949/1950 VIN # Cut off

I originally entered this thread on 4-25-2006 and just in the last week got back to it. Many days and nights of reading the whole thread ! WOW! You guys do great work - you have helped MANY of us ! ! Since 2006 have gotten computer crashes, new computers, programs, etc like many others. I have edited what I sent in originally and this AM actually got the frame rail #s and corrected the firewall data.

Item #7 - looks like PANP18
G64

I changed the "R" to a "P" - was a scratch that made it look like an "R".

Frame # 97HC313570

Can you tell me what her birthday and other info is? I do know she was from Norfolk plant. Father-in-law willed her to me in '83. I didn't know until he had passed away. "Restored" '92-95, drove her to St Louis area in '99 - '05 and drove her to PA when we moved in 2005. She can't wait to get back South to N.C. in a couple years.


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1 - 1950 F-1 late (or believed to be)
2 - VIN # 97HC313570
3 - Bed - Raised Panel see note below
4 - Not sure if original but very possible
5 - Trans 3 sp, 2,3 syncro
6 - Floor shift
7 - # PANR18 G64 On firewall above hood spring on driver's side. ERROR #

Black Possible late '50 since when installing wiring kit, gauges weren't exactly like manual layout and seemed to be cross between 50 and 51 schematic. Been too long to remember what exactly was different. Windshield wiper motor on driver side, dash braces cut/bent and had pass side wiper . Looks like late modification.

Rear axle, left front spring hangar was bolted to frame not riveted. Found when trying to figure why truck went down rd "sideways". P.O. put too long of spring on left. Left wheel /axle must have hit something really hard but no visible fender bed damage so may have had bed replaced. Farm pickup. Bed floor had thin wood planks under where two sheet metal layers had been welded to front and sides. (Didn't know others had sheet metal flooring until reading other posts.)

Sun visor on left side. Small rear window. H226 flathead
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:00 AM
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Welcome back Jim. Birthday is 18G or July 18th. It would have been a mid-50 truck. The gauge issue, like the springs, might have been compliments of the previous owner.

You might have been right before you changed the firewall code. MP is Memphis and NR is Norfolk but there wasn't an NP. Back to the drawing board, huh? : )

Norfolk used a "P" prefix on their serial numbers. A is the code for Black. Next 2 are the assembly plant. After that is the date code. The 64 designates the car/truck down the line.
 
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:04 AM
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mtflat, thanks for the early morning reply - I wasn't up yet or still. Re: Your comment "back to the drawing board."

My earlier comment - [I changed the "R" to a "P" - was a scratch that made it look like an "R".] I had read toooo many of the posts and didn't realize what it changed. My "error" might help others in the field see the "quirks" at other plants. You guys are really good at the detective work.

I just checked the number behind the hood spring and let us say it is PANR18 G64. BUT it was a "P" with the scratch put in just the right place on the lower right curve of the P to make it an R. The guy just didn't want to get the R out . The letters were punched very well.

Thanks again for the help ! !

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Old 06-13-2011, 12:44 PM
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Could someone help me with my trucks vin and or serial numbers??? This is all the information that I can find:

1. 1950 Ford F-6 (or thought to be)
2. Vin# 98TH321773
3. Flatbed with hydraulic dump
4. It is thought to be the original bed
5. original synchronized 4 speed with 2 speed rear end
6. 4 AC28B196, the A may be a M not sure
On the frame behind the left front (drivers side) tire I found this number 7PHTH-5005.

I could not figure out how to make any sense of what these number and letters mean. Maybe someone here can help me?? Thank you and have a great day!!
 
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Originally Posted by chicken1 View Post
Could someone help me with my trucks vin and or serial numbers??? This is all the information that I can find:

1. 1950 Ford F-6 (or thought to be)
2. Vin# 98TH321773
3. Flatbed with hydraulic dump
4. It is thought to be the original bed
5. original synchronized 4 speed with 2 speed rear end
6. 4 AC28B196, the A may be a M not sure
On the frame behind the left front (drivers side) tire I found this number 7PHTH-5005.

I could not figure out how to make any sense of what these number and letters mean. Maybe someone here can help me?? Thank you and have a great day!!
VIN #: 98TH321773
9 = 1949/50
8= There should be an R or an M after the 8. The R would indicate a flatghead V8. The M would indicate the hard to find big "Flathead 6" (19650 only)
TH= F6 - 134" wheelbase
321773 - Vin sequence #. This one is a 1950.

Firewall #: 4 AC28B196

4 = Birch Gray (Color)
AC = Any chance the A might be a "K"? That woulod make it a Kansas Cty Truck
28B = Feburaruy 28, 1950 build date
196 = Don't know

Not sure what that frame number might be. Perhaps someone else can help out wit this.
 
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Old 06-13-2011, 03:34 PM
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Thank you texan2004 for your help, I never would have figured any of that out. There is an R after the 8 on the vin number, so atleast it has the same type engine in it, kinda wished that is was the rare engine though. And I checked harder and it looks like the A on the firewall number might actually be a K after all, it was kinda hard to read. Thank you again for all of your guys help with these old trucks! this is the best forum ever!
 
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:06 PM
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Thank you texan2004 for your help, I never would have figured any of that out. There is an R after the 8 on the vin number, so atleast it has the same type engine in it, kinda wished that is was the rare engine though. And I checked harder and it looks like the A on the firewall number might actually be a K after all, it was kinda hard to read. Thank you again for all of your guys help with these old trucks! this is the best forum ever!
Take one more look at the firewall stamping. Another possibility might be that the "K" is an "R" ehivh would be a Richmond, CA truck. This would make a bit more sense with you being in Oregon. Problem with that though is that I've never seen where the Richmond assembly plant used the initials RC. IT was generally RH or RIC. The RIC would not likely have been a part of the firewalls stamping since that was always a 2 character identifier as far as I have seen. They could have used RC, I just have never seen that. PRoblem is though I have not seen many Kansas City trucks end up on the west coast, particularly big ones. My guess is that nobody wanted to make a loing haulk in one of these across the Rockies.
 
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:35 PM
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Howdy Tex - good to see you posting!

This looks like a part number to me: 7PHTH-5005


Carl, do you have all the numerical codes for the 50 grays?
Birch - 4
Silvertone -
Dover -

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Old 06-13-2011, 06:40 PM
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Hey Tim,

Coming out of my cave. I may try to call this week.

I think that 11 may be the Silvertone Gray. I do not ahve anything on the Dover.
 
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I've been talking to a guy on one of the other forums with a 50 that he says was originally light gray.

His firewall code is 15 LB 9F 22A and serial number 97HC 274122 LB

He has double checked it - any ideas? Could that be Dover?

Call anytime - you have my cell # don't you?
 
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Here is the information from my truck I am restoring:
1 - Year truck 1950
2 - VIN # 98RC 443270
3 - Bed - flat panel with wood slats
4 - original bed (probably have to replace)
5 - Transmission Standard 3 spd
6 - Floor shift
7 - DLB H21 302 stamped into the firewall.

The code H21 [5] is also stamped into the engine block on the rear passenger side between the head and intake manifold. Also cast into the rear of the engine block just above the bell housing is A 323.

The original color of the truck is Sheridan Blue, and I the original owner says he bought it in Dallas and believes it was manufactured there. The one odd thing (other than the strange engine codes) is it has EAB heads, instead of 8RT heads?
 

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wheredo ifind Vin on 1949 truck ,small windows and orginal bed and engine ,v6 8 cyl.
 
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The serial number is found on the data plate - passenger side firewall near the solenoid. Also on the rating plate - glovebox door. And on the top frame rail - most are on the passenger side just behind the crossmember the motor mount sits on.
 
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:53 PM
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You have everything sorted out? It is a 50, 8 cyl, halfton
firewall code
DL - Dallas assembly plant
B - Sheridan Blue
H21 - August 21 assembly date
302 - car down the line

The bellhousing number doesn't mean anything to us - just a casting number.

EAB heads were 52/53 Ford car heads - highest compression heads Ford made. Keep them unless you're doing a 100 point resto - then send them to me Somebody swapped engines or at least heads. (I run a set on my 51 merc flathead)


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Here is the information from my truck I am restoring:
1 - Year truck 1950
2 - VIN # 98RC 443270
3 - Bed - flat panel with wood slats
4 - original bed (probably have to replace)
5 - Transmission Standard 3 spd
6 - Floor shift
7 - DLB H21 302 stamped into the firewall.

The code H21 [5] is also stamped into the engine block on the rear passenger side between the head and intake manifold. Also cast into the rear of the engine block just above the bell housing is A 323.

The original color of the truck is Sheridan Blue, and I the original owner says he bought it in Dallas and believes it was manufactured there. The one odd thing (other than the strange engine codes) is it has EAB heads, instead of 8RT heads?
 
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picked up a parts truck
year:1949 f-1
vin#98RC-498168*nr
Bed: org box
Trans: ?
shift on colume
 

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