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thanks fore all the info it where fun that is was made in Long beach .on the metall tag whit the vin number :88RC*74313*L LB and after that it are what looks like a K but is are damage on that area .
 
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Old 10-20-2010, 02:39 PM
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1948 Ford F-6

1. Titled 1949 may or may not be correct?
2. VIN *88RT-*101104* Branch SP
3. N/A
4. N/A
5. 4speed (4 forward 1 reverse)
6. Floor shift
7. SPH8 420B 8698

Glove box is hard to read? 8R-TH

Coleman Transfer Case Model 40 Serial# 1107

Truck was/is a chassis cab

Repainted Orange but has Green interior and green under the orange.
 
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 48 4x4 View Post
1. Titled 1949 may or may not be correct?
2. VIN *88RT-*101104* Branch SP
3. N/A
4. N/A
5. 4speed (4 forward 1 reverse)
6. Floor shift
7. SPH8 420B 8698

Glove box is hard to read? 8R-TH
Coleman Transfer Case Model 40 Serial# 1107
Truck was/is a chassis cab
Repainted Orange but has Green interior and green under the orange.
Easy part is 48 V8 Truck built in Twin Cities plant (St Paul) serial # 101104

Firewall I have to guess on part of it....this one isn't typical of SP

SP is assembly plant - Twin Cities
H - should be color code, but none are H - could that character be an M? for Meadow Green
84 - body code for Chassis/Cowl (Unusual to be included, but fits)
20B - assembly date of 20 Feb (which is way out of place compared to the serial #) I would expect this to have been an 'H'
8698 - vehicle down the line
 
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Old 10-21-2010, 02:58 PM
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Thanks mtflat

I double checked the firewall. The stamping is not deep but the 'B' I am pretty sure is a 'B'. The lower right part of the 'B' is rounded with a little bit of the upper right missing. Looks like b. The 'H' does not look like a 'M'. The middle line of the 'H' is horizontal. The lower right part is missing. Looks somewhat like??? I-'


The glove box, firewall and frame all match. Might have to add the truck to the oddity group? The rest of the numbers are clear but spaced out and grouped more like this. SPI-' (s p a c e ) 420b (space ) 8698 Only other marking is on the bottom part on the inside of the hood, and I understand it may mean nothing. 7 - 20 - 4 Thanks again.
 
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Ok guys, what info can you glean from my VIN and firewall numbers?

VIN: 98RY 426897
Model: WBY
1950 F-3
Raised bed panels
Firewall: M KC 14G143
 
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 48 4x4 View Post
Thanks mtflat

I double checked the firewall. The stamping is not deep but the 'B' I am pretty sure is a 'B'. The lower right part of the 'B' is rounded with a little bit of the upper right missing. Looks like b. The 'H' does not look like a 'M'. The middle line of the 'H' is horizontal. The lower right part is missing. Looks somewhat like??? I-'


The glove box, firewall and frame all match. Might have to add the truck to the oddity group? The rest of the numbers are clear but spaced out and grouped more like this. SPI-' (s p a c e ) 420b (space ) 8698 Only other marking is on the bottom part on the inside of the hood, and I understand it may mean nothing. 7 - 20 - 4 Thanks again.
Interesting - I'll keep chewing on it and maybe Carl will check in with his take on it.

Keep in mind Ford used capital letters. The 'b' is actually the number 6. Ford used the same stamp for 6 and 9 which had a straight leg. Ford also used the capital 'I' for the number 1.

This makes your string "SP1? 4206 8698"

The 7 - 20 - 4 on the hood makes more sense to me based on the serial number. It should be the date of assembly July 20, 48. This was often stenciled on the cowl and uses the common month/day/year.
 
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Originally Posted by tjdad62 View Post
Ok guys, what info can you glean from my VIN and firewall numbers?

VIN: 98RY 426897
Model: WBY
1950 F-3
Raised bed panels
Firewall: M KC 14G143
Serial number:
9 - 49/50
8R - V8
Y - F3 heavy 3/4 ton
426897 - late 1950 production

Firewall:
M - Meadow Green
KC - Kansas City assembly plant
14G - July 14 assembly date
143 - vehicle down the line
 
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Old 10-27-2010, 07:44 AM
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Hi, I haven't seen any ref to F-4s on site or mention of same. But I know of two in southern NH. F-6Larry
 
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Old 10-27-2010, 09:17 AM
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Hi, I haven't seen any ref to F-4s on site or mention of same. But I know of two in southern NH. F-6Larry
Keep looking Larry, there's a few around here. Back on post 586 I posted the vin for my '50 F4 and here's a link to the post I made when I hauled home it home.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...ect-truck.html

F4 was designated a one ton for years 48-50 - could be had with either single or dual rear wheels. Serial numbers used the letter T as the 4th character. GVRW was 10,000 Uses the same wheel bolt pattern as the F6's.
 
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Originally Posted by mtflat View Post
Interesting - I'll keep chewing on it and maybe Carl will check in with his take on it.

Keep in mind Ford used capital letters. The 'b' is actually the number 6. Ford used the same stamp for 6 and 9 which had a straight leg. Ford also used the capital 'I' for the number 1.

This makes your string "SP1? 4206 8698"

The 7 - 20 - 4 on the hood makes more sense to me based on the serial number. It should be the date of assembly July 20, 48. This was often stenciled on the cowl and uses the common month/day/year.
I was just looking at this another way;
SP = Saint Paul
1 (could the 1 be a 7) ? = could be color = Meadow Green
1? (could the ? be a 6) = Could be color 16 = Chrome Yellow
4 = Birch Grey
206 (could the 6 be a G) = 20th July
8698 = down the line (someone said that this is per day, I think this is down the line in that month)
 
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Best way to do this is probably to ask for the following information:

1 - Year truck is registered as (or believed to be)
2 - VIN # (The whole thing including the 98RC, 98RD, etc.)
3 - Bed - Raised Panel or flat panel
4 - Is this the original bed
5 - Transmission
6 - Column shift or floor shift
7 - # stamped into the firewall if you have one.


I'm new to this forum and am looking forward to helping a few and learning a lot from the rest of you. My F-1 is as follows:

1. 1949
2. 97HC212719 RIC or R1C Not sure which. I can not find any plant code that matches either of them.
3. Bed is raised panel
4. Bed is original
5. Trans is 3 speed
6. Floor Shift
7. 7RHI0E6I56 would like some info on what this number main mean. The two letters I are definitely not the number 1 unless they are written in Roman Numerals.

Rog
 
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Buggrn49 View Post
7. 7RHI0E6I56 would like some info on what this number main mean. The two letters I are definitely not the number 1 unless they are written in Roman Numerals.

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Welcome Rog,

Ford used the capital I in place of a number 1. Helps keep things confusing : )

97HC 212719 RIC
9 - 1949 with a serial number in that range
7H - 226 ci flathead six
C - halfton
212719 is the serial number
RIC - Richmond CA assembly plant (this isn't actually part of the serial number but was added to some of the data tags on the cowl... I doubt that you'll find it on the frame stamping)

7RH10E6156
7 - color code for Meadow Green
RH - Richmond Assembly plant
10E - assembly date of 10 May
6156 - vehicle down the line
 
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Old 11-08-2010, 07:07 PM
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Thanks for the help MTFlat.
 
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:34 PM
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Hello I have a 1950 F1 I have owned for 38 years. Here is my # s any info appreciated.
1950
98RC-334729
Raised panel bed
original bed
3 speed on column I think ?
firewall stamping TB4D74
 
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Old 11-10-2010, 11:19 PM
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You know most of the info already.
9 - 49/50
8R - 239 flathead V8
C - halfton
334729 the serial number

TB4D74 doesn't fit much of what I have gathered together. Are you sure that's all of it?
4D might be the assembly date and in front of that is usually the color code and assembly plant code.

Any idea what the original color was? Under the dash, behind the kick panels or around the gas tank are places you can usually find traces even if the truck has been repainted.
 

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