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Old 10-17-2005, 09:56 AM
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Holy Crap, your right guy's I apologize. My old flex plate from my 302 with AOD is labeled C-4 / AOD. I got it confused, my bad. I did the swap a while ago. So if he swaps in an AOD a flex plate change out is needed. Thanks for the clarification.
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Old 10-17-2005, 10:27 AM
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A couple of minor corrections to this thread.

You said your t-case is shift on the fly. Is it electronic (push-button) or manual? Either way, the computer has nothing to do with the transfer case, I'll guarantee you that. If you want to ditch the push button case, you'll need to swap the whole thing out.

There were some electronic AOD transmissions around, called the AOD-E. They were on the scene by 1992. What's your tranny code? I think 'U' is the code for the electronic version of the AOD.

The C6 is a three speed. The AOD is a four speed.

The speedo, as stated, is electronically controlled. You can't get away from that, unfortunately.

Have you considered ditching your Bronco entirely and buying one from the early 80's that doesn't already have the computer controlled stuff? I think it would be much cheaper and definitely less work.

Also, I don't think you're giving EFI a chance. It works wonderfully when it works. All of my trucks (five and counting) have been super reliable.
 
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Old 10-17-2005, 12:46 PM
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andy the aode was never offered in a fullsize truck. the only electric tranny in a bronco/f150 was the E4od till 97. the AODe was a car tranny
 
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I know that's not right.

For one, the 4R70W was offered in full size trucks and Broncos. It's an electronic 4 speed auto with overdrive.

What I can't seem to determine is if the AODE and the 4R70W are two different names for the same tranny. From what I can tell based on a couple searches, the AODE/4R70W came out around 94. So I was incorrect when I said that it was out as early as 92.

Edit: what's your source? I've found several posts in the tranny forum from people with '94 or '95 trucks claiming to have an AODE. The 4R70W came out in '96.
 

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people always mix up the e4od and Aode. because they are both electric od trannies. now maybe they used the aode in a 2wd setup but never in a 4wd. the e4od came out in 89-90 and the od button was located on the dash. this stayed till 92. in 93 the button was moved to the end of the shift lever and the tranny recieved internal upgrades increasing its strength. the 4r70w was a 96yr tranny and offered in both trucks and suv's running obd-II electronics giving more functionality and such. but you wont find any broncos with that tranny due to it being discontinued in 96 but the f150 got them.
 
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Old 10-17-2005, 06:38 PM
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and e40d and c6 flexplate are the same. the AOD is the oddball and cant be used on any other auto tranny period.
AOD flexplate is the same as C-4 and C-5 ONLY if the AOD is 1980. I've never seen a C-4 or C-5 flexplate with a 50 oz imbalance weight.


The AODE and the 4R70W are very close to being the same. The W in 4R70W stands for Wide, as in wide ratio gear set. There may be other differences then that, but I don't know them. I haven't seen the ratio's per gear, but I suspect the "W" transmission has a lower 1st gear too.
 
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Old 10-18-2005, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by stevef100s
AOD flexplate is the same as C-4 and C-5 ONLY if the AOD is 1980. I've never seen a C-4 or C-5 flexplate with a 50 oz imbalance weight.


The AODE and the 4R70W are very close to being the same. The W in 4R70W stands for Wide, as in wide ratio gear set. There may be other differences then that, but I don't know them. I haven't seen the ratio's per gear, but I suspect the "W" transmission has a lower 1st gear too.
My 89 stang I put on the track ran a 72 302 to start with a c-4, then a c-6 then it found an aod towards the end of its track life. The final motor running in it was a 93 converted to carb and was back to a c-6.
The flywheel's used were for a c-6 on ordered by engines date. Yeah they all fit except never tried the electronic trans because I was running a carb and it was easier to track tune.
Id probably still have the car if
A) a guard rail in bowling kentucky didnt mess the rear 1/4 up. Rip half the car in two and leave me sitting with a camaro bumper imprint in the opposite 1/4 er where he hit me when his car broke loose.
And B) if gas was little cheaper.
50 ounce or 28 ounce for that matter flywheel's are the least of the problems. Call jegs summit or well about aftermarket place you want then when done go to Auto Zone.
Hey as for the speedo there is a company that converts the signal to a cable just cant remember who will post when it hits me. They do alot of GM and DODGE garbage so they should be able to fine tune ours.
 

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My 89 stang I put on the track ran a 72 302 to start with a c-4, then a c-6 then it found an aod towards the end of its track life. The final motor running in it was a 93 converted to carb and was back to a c-6.
There's no way that you used the same flexplate on a 32 302 and a 93 302. It would shake itself to death. The 28 and 50 weights ARE a big deal.
 
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do you know that the 4r70w gear set can be installed in the AOD case giving you the lower 1st & 2nd gears. its actually the best build for an aod you can do for your 4wd and is alot stronger as well. but the tranny would run ya about $1300
 
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do you know that the 4r70w gear set can be installed in the AOD case giving you the lower 1st & 2nd gears. its actually the best build for an aod you can do for your 4wd and is alot stronger as well. but the tranny would run ya about $1300
That's good to know. Learning things is one of the reasons why I like this site.
 
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Originally Posted by stevef100s
There's no way that you used the same flexplate on a 32 302 and a 93 302. It would shake itself to death. The 28 and 50 weights ARE a big deal.
FIrst off did you mean to say it like this because in 32 there was not a 302.
Second off what I meant to say was use a flywheel for the appropiate year of motor. I said it was a converted 93 carbed motor never said the flywheel was a 72.

Please dont read more into then you have to. It was clearly stated.
Did I not say order the flywheel to the year of motor.
What is not a big deal in your words mine (was stated in mine as least of problems) is getting the CORRECT flywheel so these trans swaps can be done.
Either way take care.
 

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Old 10-19-2005, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Kemicalburns
do you know that the 4r70w gear set can be installed in the AOD case giving you the lower 1st & 2nd gears. its actually the best build for an aod you can do for your 4wd and is alot stronger as well. but the tranny would run ya about $1300
Didnt know that one. Maybe if I decide to keep my aod and replace neccessary parts for my 4x4 project I'll check it out.
 
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Old 10-20-2005, 05:57 AM
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My 89 stang I put on the track ran a 72 302 to start with a c-4, then a c-6 then it found an aod towards the end of its track life. The final motor running in it was a 93 converted to carb and was back to a c-6.
No, it's NOT very clear. SEVENTY-two 302 with C-4, to a 93 engine with a C-6. It sounds like you used the same flexplate.
 
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Old 10-20-2005, 08:39 AM
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pacer i have the link to the builder of this model tranny. it will handle 500hp easy
 
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Old 10-20-2005, 08:42 AM
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ALSAIR, If you go to WWW.POPULARHOTRODDING.COM and click on the link (story) "understanding boosters" you will find that your carbed 302 will run better if you follow the instructions there in.
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