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well that is not the true rating for those trucks while they may hold up to 5,800 each it is not legal to do so. if the gvwr is 10,000 with a curb weight of lets say 8,000 then you end up with only 2,000 lbs of payload.
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From: POINT PLEASANT, NJ
I have a question about the payload rating. On the F150, it is rated at 1/2 ton, correct? Yet a sales man at the local gravel/sand yard sez my F150 will hold and carry 1 ton of bluestone.....he actually insisted it will carry it no problem. It has new Monroe air shocks in the rear, and I have the "Loadhelper" unloader..rated at 200 pounds...will it haul the stones ok?
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1/2 ton, 3/4 ton, 1 ton, all of these designations for trucks are relics of a previous age. They no longer accurately describe the payload capability of a specific truck. The true payload of a vehicle is the GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) minus the weight of the truck (full tank of gas, no passengers). The F-350 in my sig weighs 7900 lbs, and has a GVWR of 11,500 lbs, thus, it has a payload capacity of 3600 lbs.
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From: Brentwood,CA
Originally Posted by C. Lee Colbert
I have a question about the payload rating. On the F150, it is rated at 1/2 ton, correct? Yet a sales man at the local gravel/sand yard sez my F150 will hold and carry 1 ton of bluestone.....he actually insisted it will carry it no problem. It has new Monroe air shocks in the rear, and I have the "Loadhelper" unloader..rated at 200 pounds...will it haul the stones ok?
i got a 1,000.00 fine for overload once about 3 years ago. i was over 600 lbs.
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From: Columbia, MO
F-350 SRW, 4X4, depending on configuration, has GVWRs from 10,500# to 11,500#, and payloads form 4,000# to 4,300#.
The F-350 DRW, 4X4, again depending on configuration, has a range of GVWRs of 12,000# to 13,000#, and payloads rangeing from 5,200# to 5,400#.
That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
The F-350 DRW, 4X4, again depending on configuration, has a range of GVWRs of 12,000# to 13,000#, and payloads rangeing from 5,200# to 5,400#.
That's my story and I'm stickin to it.
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really?never knew that. all i have ever seen is the 10,000 gvwr trucks thats also all ford lists on their website.
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here is what i have found in my 2006 super duty book: REGULAR CAB F-350 SRW 4,400lbs, F-350 DRW 5,800lbs. SUPERCAB F-350 SRW 4,400lbs, F-350 DRW 5,800lbs, CREW CAB F-350 SRW 4,400lbs, F-350 DRW 5,800 lbs. assuming 2whd not 4 5.4 not 6.8 or 6.0l. Add the diesel and ZF-6 and payload on an F-350 DRW Crew Cab 4x4 drops to 5,200. GO from sb to lb and payload on the CC 4x4 drops 100 from 5300.....hope this isn't tooo confusing
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From: Columbia, MO
ford390, the 10,000# GVWR is for F-250s with proper componants. You can get an F-350 with 10,000# GVWR but it is a special order. If you go to the Ford wedsite and build an F-350 you'll see the difference. (I see that you are in CA so the 10,000# GVWR may be for insurance/license purposes. It seems that some states want to put commercial plates and higher insurance rates on trucks that have GVWRs above 10,000#)
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Dodge trucks aways have lacked payload capacity every truck they make is undersprung it won't carry near as much as a Ford or Chev. To get the true carrying capacity is like the others said your actual tare weight subract your gvw and thats what you can put on the truck. My 95 F-450 weighs 8400lbs roughly empty so I can legally haul 6600lbs the truck will easily handle more than that but its not "legal".
A regular F-150 will usually handle a 2000lb load if its evenly distributed in the box.
A regular F-150 will usually handle a 2000lb load if its evenly distributed in the box.
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From: Reed Point, MT
Here's something cool to do when you're out and about with nothing to do:
Go to a Chevy dealer, look under the rear axles of both an HD and a LD pickup. The HD has the 11.5" AAM, while the LD has 9.5". You might run into the old 10.5", but that's only in the 6.0L. Anyways, go to the Dodge dealer next and take a look at the axles underneath it. The Dodge will have the 9.5" in the front with the 11.5" in the rear. Kinda neat. WHAT HAPPENED TO DANA???? I guess Ford's the only one still using them (front axles).
Cody
Go to a Chevy dealer, look under the rear axles of both an HD and a LD pickup. The HD has the 11.5" AAM, while the LD has 9.5". You might run into the old 10.5", but that's only in the 6.0L. Anyways, go to the Dodge dealer next and take a look at the axles underneath it. The Dodge will have the 9.5" in the front with the 11.5" in the rear. Kinda neat. WHAT HAPPENED TO DANA???? I guess Ford's the only one still using them (front axles).
Cody
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WHAT HAPPENED TO DANA???? I guess Ford's the only one still using them (front axles).
I believe the Nissan Titan uses a variant of the Dana 44.
And the rear of dualies are Dana 80's.
I believe the Nissan Titan uses a variant of the Dana 44.
And the rear of dualies are Dana 80's.
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From: Jax Fla.
Originally Posted by powerstroke6ltr
The Long bed 'Crew' cab 3500 laramie doesn't have a payload cap. of even 3,000 lbs.