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Old 07-22-2005, 11:38 AM
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oxygen sensor + heater not ready on scan for emissions testing

At work I'm working on our 2001 F350 Super duty with a V10. Took io for NYS inspection and it wouldn"t pass.Oxygen sensor : not ready, and oxygen sensor heater: not ready. Brought it back to the shop and installed our snap-on scanner(codeP1000).Same as above description. Ran function mode and bank2 O2 sensor no readings. Installed new sensor same thing. Swaped sides with side that was working, no difference. Checked connections and wireing looks good. HELP! Thanks Scott
 
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Uh, my '01 reports the same thing, has all it's life...

I thought my Autotap software didn't work right, but now I'm not so sure!

Are the O2 sensors three-wire or two?
 
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Old 07-22-2005, 02:42 PM
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Have you had the battery disconnected recently? It takes x amount of drive cycle before everything is ready. Not sure what x is. My truck failed because of the same thing. I had to go drive around for a day, and bring it back.
 
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Old 07-22-2005, 04:30 PM
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Find the owners manual for the 2001 and follow the pre emmission test driving cycle procedure.
 
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:11 AM
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The battery hasn't been unhooked since new, and of coarse the owners manual is mia. It's a work truck so there's a number of different drivers. Thanks for the info. Scott
 
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Old 07-23-2005, 05:20 AM
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Oh the O2 sensers are four wire and close to $50. Scott
 
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Old 07-23-2005, 06:10 AM
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just a thought here. check the fuses maybe 1 for the ho2s is blown. then do as fred said and go for a long drive
 
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Old 07-31-2005, 11:52 AM
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Got them inspected

Went to the Ford dealer and was given a two page driving proceedure to get all the sensers to communicate with the ECM. Drove through all the steps and bingo the troublsome code was gone. Then my boss shut the truck off(DON'T). The code was back. Ended up takeing the trucks (we have two 2001 F-350 super dutys) to the dealer to get inspected instead of the local garage. All is well till next year. Thanks Scott
 
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There's still something wrong if it comes back after turning off the key.

But, oh well...
 
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Old 07-31-2005, 04:19 PM
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what is the procedure? can you post it or e-mail it?
 
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Ford had a little known calibration issue with the V10 engine packages in 2001, the P1000 code being always present is how it manifests itself. I have a 2001 Excursion w/41,000 miles on it and the P1000 DTC has never cleared. basically the P1000 code is used to let techs know that ALL of the OBD monitors have NOT completed yet, but since all packages that use the V10 are >8,500 GVW they do not have to be OBDII compliant in all but GREEN states like California. This means that they don't have the hardware present to run ALL of the OBDII monitors like EVAP leak checks, and CAT monitors. However the OBDII calibrations "think" that they are supposed to run all of the tests, and therefore the P1000 never clears on some applications.

Funny that as soon as you brought it to the dealer for the I/M test that it passed
 
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Ford had a little known calibration issue with the V10 engine packages in 2001, the P1000 code being always present is how it manifests itself. I have a 2001 Excursion w/41,000 miles on it and the P1000 DTC has never cleared. basically the P1000 code is used to let techs know that ALL of the OBD monitors have NOT completed yet, but since all packages that use the V10 are >8,500 GVW they do not have to be OBDII compliant in all but GREEN states like California. This means that they don't have the hardware present to run ALL of the OBDII monitors like EVAP leak checks, and CAT monitors. However the OBDII calibrations "think" that they are supposed to run all of the tests, and therefore the P1000 never clears on some applications.

Funny that as soon as you brought it to the dealer for the I/M test that it passed
VERY interesting!

I have a metro New York model, so it should conform to California rules... but it only has two O2 sensors, none after the cat. Underhood sticker says "conforms to ULEV for Heavy Duty Truck engines", ULEV being a California thing, that makes a lot of sense.

AH HAH!

I wonder if my V10 being doggy most of the time until I beat on it (complete diagnostics) is related to this P1000 thing.

I did get that code last time I played with my Autotap, cleared it, cycled the key and it was gone... I'll have to check if it's "still gone"...
 
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Old 07-31-2005, 07:16 PM
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thats interesting now we are both ny area. both caili emissions. you have a 01 and only 2 ho2s"s and i have a 05 and have 4 wonder what gives or is it just the years of our trucks
 
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thats interesting now we are both ny area. both caili emissions. you have a 01 and only 2 ho2s"s and i have a 05 and have 4 wonder what gives or is it just the years of our trucks
My '96 and '97 4.6L's have the full four O2's... but they also have two seperate cat's, with a third in the y-pipe, half-way down the car. Two o2's are just after the exhaust manifolds, the other two just after the first two cat's.

The '01 V10 has only the two, before the cat, one in each down-spout.

I think my Autotap reports it's OBD-I, not OBD-II

I would think that the '05's and up are the full two-cat, four o2 sensor versions, which makes sense with yours.

Why mine is a 2-o2 sensor, CA emissions, ULEV, that's WEIRD.

I heard from a few people on this site that they had the 3 o2-sensors, for CA emissions...

Don't know,maybe back in '01, NY didn't require CA emissions on "heavy duty truck engines" ??? that's what mine is rated, ULEV for heavy-duty truck engine.
 
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I had an issue with my V10 in my E350 in NY with the O2 sensor not being ready. Failed emmisions with the not ready, and eventually took it to the dealership. Service tech knew immediately what was wrong - NY State scans the registration and inputs the E350 as 1-8500 pound vehicle. Soon as the tech manually set it to 8501-10000 pound (read the label on the door!) it passed inspection.
Check your failed emissions slip for weight class.
 


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