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Old 07-09-2005, 12:10 PM
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Manual Tranny went, Rebuild?

My manual trans went in my 1985 F-150. I think it's the TOD trans from pictures. 2nd gear was making a grinding noise whenever the trans was in that gear. I pulled it out today and you can grab the output and input shafts and pull them apart maybe an 1/8 of an inch and wiggle them around. Does anyone know of where I can get a rebuild kit and a manual or video to do this myself? This will be my first time dealing with the insides of a tranny. It's not my daily driver though, Just my mule to pull the trailer and go to the dump. So i'm not hurried for time or afraid if things go awry.
 
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Is it a 4 speed OD trans, or a low first gear job?

http://www.motivegear.com/tech_info/...nny_guide.html

Do you have a juice clutch or mechanical?

I was quoted $500 to rebuild my 4 speed "smod" OD trans. A ZF would be over $1000, best as I can tell. I am leaning towards upgrading to a 5 speed, but have put it off as mine is just making noise and it's not a daily driver.

I did a google search for "t170 rebuild" and came up with this:

http://www.drivetrain.com/transmanua...CKS%20&%20VANS

good luck.
 
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Originally Posted by 85e150six4mtod
Is it a 4 speed OD trans, or a low first gear job?

http://www.motivegear.com/tech_info/tranny_guide/tranny_guide.html

Do you have a juice clutch or mechanical?

I was quoted $500 to rebuild my 4 speed "smod" OD trans. A ZF would be over $1000, best as I can tell. I am leaning towards upgrading to a 5 speed, but have put it off as mine is just making noise and it's not a daily driver.

I did a google search for "t170 rebuild" and came up with this:

http://www.drivetrain.com/transmanualrebuildkit.html#FORD%20TRUCKS%20&%20VAN S

good luck.
it's definitly the T170FT (Code-RTS) trans. that rebuild kit will work thanks! now I just need the manual. I wonder if the factory repair manual will have rebuild info in it?
 
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Old 07-09-2005, 12:49 PM
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Here is a better site if you didn't find it already. Don't know about the rebuild book or instructions.

http://www.drivetrain.com/tremec4sp.html
 
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http://www.themotorbookstore.com/transmission.html

I found this one but i'm not sure if it's the correct one.
 
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94bonestocker, I did this rebuild a few months ago. I could not find a manual and ended up using the tech article here on the website for rebuilding the t-18. They are fairly similarly set-up, and the steps he took and pics were a great help. Check it out... and good luck with it.
 
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Thanks Rhodie!
 
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I would see if there is a local transmission shop near you that you can get the kit from, because when you open it up you may find that you need to replace something else (like a bad synchro) which they would probably be able to supply you with right then. Also, invest in a set of lock-ring pliers (+/- $15)--makes your life a lot easier--some drifts/punches, and one of those 99cent telescoping magnets to retrieve stuff from the bottom when they invariably fall in ....

As I said, the t-18 is similar, but there are some differences here and there. For example, getting the input shaft out was not so easy. There is an internal fork that rides on a small shaft midway up on the side of the case. This fork made it difficult to get the input shaft out without a lot of manipulation and effort. I later realized you could take the fork out which made things much easier. There is a small pin that holds the fork onto the shaft. I punched it out and then slid the shaft over, then got the fork off.

Take pictures as you go so you can remember how things looked/went. As you pull parts out, keep them well organized, and try to keep the work space clean, etc., etc. Give us an update on how things go--and if I can help....
 
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The winter before last I had the same thing happen in my 84 F150 4wd. I have the NP435 with granny low first. The truck was becoming hard to shift, I could hear growling/ whining noises coming from the tranny every time I would shift it. I was able to get a master rebuild kit from Bronco Graveyard (cost $165), it came with all new bearings, syncro rings, snap rings, gaskets, seals, ... everything but the gears. They carry a variety of overhaul kits for the various manual trannys and transfer cases Ford used. Check out their website at www.broncograveyard.com. The rebuild wasn't too difficult, I just carefully took it apart, cleaned and inspected all the parts; then laid them out on a clean work bench. I just took my time and reassembled it in reverse to how I took it apart, getting shift forks lined up was a bit of a headache. Once it was back together I painted it with Hi-temp gloss black engine paint. Before I stuffed the tranny back into the truck I had the flywheel resurfaced, installed a new pilot bearing, clutch disc, pressure plate, and throwout bearing. After that it shifted like a brand new truck. You could go that route and rebuild your tranny, or if you don't use the truck very often; or even are concidering selling the truck later you could buy a used one from a boneyard. Hope this helps, good luck.
 
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