GM V-10 maybe???
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Originally Posted by 150ford
The torqueshift is the trnsmission that is better then the allison. IMO
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Originally Posted by FghtinIrshNvrDie
Oh, man, I can testify to that. The 4.3 before Vortec engines was a doooog... and it got horrible gas mileage.
I was always curious why I was only getting around 11 mpg in a little 1500 W/T...Ryan
I was always curious why I was only getting around 11 mpg in a little 1500 W/T...Ryan
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Which means either the Blazer is a gas hog or the Suburban's surprisingly economical. You probably know which one it is- 
the Suburban (and the Town Car, and my Gr Marquis) are pretty economical- especially when compared to smaller vehicles.
the Suburban (and the Town Car, and my Gr Marquis) are pretty economical- especially when compared to smaller vehicles.
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Ryland, The Germans cancelled ONE of the truck V-10's. The 300 h.p. 8.1 is gone but they offer an 8.3 with 500 h.p. 150ford, Torqueflite? How many years are you going back and how are you possibly comparing an old 3 speed to a new modern heavy duty 5 speed? Details?
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Oops, My bad! My years are showing. I read "torque..... trans" and ....... Good to hear the new 5 speed is very competitive!!! I was tempted to get it but saved almost 2K and have one more gear.
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That might make some sense as to why the colorado has an I-5 instead of a V6. Chevy has so many V6's that they could've just pulnked one in, but rather they decided to design a totally new I-5. considering a V10 is basically two I-5's put together, we would be looking at a 7.0L V10, if that is what they end up doing.
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More fuel...scroll down to the silverado line. Not official but possibly official conjecture?
http://www.gminsidenews.com/futureguide1.htm
http://www.gminsidenews.com/futureguide1.htm
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I can't see why they would want to build all new engines when they can't fix the junkheaps they're building right now.
sometimes the end of an engine's lifecycle also means the end of a R&D budget- just food for thought.
sometimes the end of an engine's lifecycle also means the end of a R&D budget- just food for thought.
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Originally Posted by polarbear
I can't see why they would want to build all new engines when they can't fix the junkheaps they're building right now.
sometimes the end of an engine's lifecycle also means the end of a R&D budget- just food for thought.
sometimes the end of an engine's lifecycle also means the end of a R&D budget- just food for thought.
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Matt's anti-GM comment is seen as anti-American by this old fart. We are down to "The Big Two" now and I wish them both well. I hired into Chrysler in 1964 and the Germans bought us out and laid me off. I have almost 41 years with a company that cares not because I am not in the union. What GM has done with small blocks is phenomenal! If the SSR cost any less, I would be getting one with the newfound h.p. and 6 speed. Meanwhile, I enjoy my made in Kansas City and Louisville Fords! (edited - BigF350)
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Originally Posted by osbornk
GM has had and developed the small block over 50+ years and it still thrives. Has any other engine had such a long lifecycle other than the Harley V-twin and the BMW boxer (both motorcycles)?
The Mazda rotary engine. Although details have changed, (moving of ports and such), the fundamentals have stayed the same.
Ford 4.0l Inline 6 (only available in Australia and New Zealand in the Falcon). The block design is basically the same today as what it was in the 60s. There have been slight configuration changes (it now has OHC, with VCT etc., and it got bored out slightly), but it is essentially the same engine.
Ford "Kent" engine. Used in Formula Fords, and the Ford KA up until last year. Engine was first used in the late 50's if I remember correctly.
The flat 4, VW beetle engine, built up until 2003 in Mexico, designed in 1935...
There are plenty more, I just can't think of them at this stage.
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Looks like it would be the 6.0L with two extra cylinders atached to it, like the Ford V10. They also say that their trucks are getting redesigned in 2007, not 2006, and are going to be like the Dodge Ram. Why would they follow Dodge and not Ford- everybody knows Ford and Chevy are better than Dodge in terms of the quality of the trucks- maybe not in terms of the engines, but we don't need to go there
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The Rover V8 goes pretty close, and beats it if you trace its origins back to the original GM design in the 50s. They stopped using it THIS year.-SMALL BLOCK STILL IN USE AND WAS DEVELOPED AND PREDATES THE ROVER V8-
The Mazda rotary engine. Although details have changed, (moving of ports and such), the fundamentals have stayed the same.-I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT WAS FIRST USED IN THE EARLY 70S.
Ford 4.0l Inline 6 (only available in Australia and New Zealand in the Falcon). The block design is basically the same today as what it was in the 60s. There have been slight configuration changes (it now has OHC, with VCT etc., and it got bored out slightly), but it is essentially the same engine.-AS WAS SAID 60S AND OHC IS A BIG CHANGE.
Ford "Kent" engine. Used in Formula Fords, and the Ford KA up until last year. Engine was first used in the late 50's if I remember correctly.-SMALL BLOCK WAS USED IN 1955 AND STILL IN USE.
The flat 4, VW beetle engine, built up until 2003 in Mexico, designed in 1935.-AGREED-BUT IT WAS NEVER REALLY DEVELOPED.
There are plenty more, I just can't think of them at this stage
The Mazda rotary engine. Although details have changed, (moving of ports and such), the fundamentals have stayed the same.-I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT WAS FIRST USED IN THE EARLY 70S.
Ford 4.0l Inline 6 (only available in Australia and New Zealand in the Falcon). The block design is basically the same today as what it was in the 60s. There have been slight configuration changes (it now has OHC, with VCT etc., and it got bored out slightly), but it is essentially the same engine.-AS WAS SAID 60S AND OHC IS A BIG CHANGE.
Ford "Kent" engine. Used in Formula Fords, and the Ford KA up until last year. Engine was first used in the late 50's if I remember correctly.-SMALL BLOCK WAS USED IN 1955 AND STILL IN USE.
The flat 4, VW beetle engine, built up until 2003 in Mexico, designed in 1935.-AGREED-BUT IT WAS NEVER REALLY DEVELOPED.
There are plenty more, I just can't think of them at this stage