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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Somebody keeps stealing my new Snowplow business signs . I have placed them in my neighborhood on State and GAS Company property. Has this happen to any of you. How do you guy’s advertise you businesses. I can’t afford to keep replacing these signs. Maybe somehow I can booby-trap the culprits, any ideal's. I am sure it's somebody with a snowplow business.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Are you sure somebody's stealing them? It could be the state and gas company removing them from their property.

I wouldn't boobytrap them unless you want their disappearance to be the least of your problems.

Advertise in your paper, put notices up on store bulletin boards with a pull-off phone number, talk to landscapers about working for them when they get too busy. Get magnetic signs for the side of your truck that say "SNOW PLOWING" with your phone number. Or do that time honored tradition of underbidding the other guy on commercial jobs.

That's all I've got.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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I agree. It might be a competitor, but it might not. If advertising in the right-of-ways is illegal, some citizens pull up signs just to keep the clutter down. I've also seen city employees "stealing" such signs.

Booby-trapping is also the wrong thing to do. For example, you can't protect your home with booby-traps that shoot people if they break in (while you aren't there). You would be charged with murder or manslaugher. If you booby-trap a sign, you would be liable for the damages or injury.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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Pretty sure somebody is taking them. I have signs already for the truck. I just wanted the neighbors seeing the signs everyday as they drive in/out of the development. I have picked up new customers from the signs that were stolen. If I was to post in a store, I will receive calls from all over. I just want to keep my plowing local. I'll make up some mailers and put them into mailboxes. Next year I will get an earlier start and under bid that snow pusher stealing my signs. I will make him pay for it in the long run. Maybe just maybe I’ll see a chebby stuck in a snowdrift while plowing snow in my neighborhood and ask him a few questions!

QUOTE=farmwheels]Are you sure somebody's stealing them? It could be the state and gas company removing them from their property.

I wouldn't boobytrap them unless you want their disappearance to be the least of your problems.

Advertise in your paper, put notices up on store bulletin boards with a pull-off phone number, talk to landscapers about working for them when they get too busy. Get magnetic signs for the side of your truck that say "SNOW PLOWING" with your phone number. Or do that time honored tradition of underbidding the other guy on commercial jobs.

That's all I've got.[/QUOTE]
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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I think it would be pretty hard to prove who placed the booby trap . Other signs are still there just mine missing.
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I agree. It might be a competitor, but it might not. If advertising in the right-of-ways is illegal, some citizens pull up signs just to keep the clutter down. I've also seen city employees "stealing" such signs.

Booby-trapping is also the wrong thing to do. For example, you can't protect your home with booby-traps that shoot people if they break in (while you aren't there). You would be charged with murder or manslaugher. If you booby-trap a sign, you would be liable for the damages or injury.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Just don't get caught putting your flyers in any mailboxes as that is a Federal offense, and the Postal Service has time to prosecute things like that.

Go door to door in your developement and put the signs on the truck. My guess is that you'll get half of your new business "While you are there."
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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"I think it would be pretty hard to prove who placed the booby trap."
Yeah, maybe so. Maybe the cops would be too dumb to call the number listed on the booby-trapped sign.

If you are going to booby-trap a sign with your company name and phone number on it, you might as well go ahead and leave your address so they won't have to look up that information to arrest you.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Just don't get caught putting your flyers in any mailboxes as that is a Federal offense, and the Postal Service has time to prosecute things like that.
I think this needs to be said again!
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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The wife helps her brother with an heating and air business. they have done the following:

1. Stuffed newspaper boxs(not mail)
2. Run yellow page add (not cheap)
3. Done mailers (local, printed themselves, also cheap)
4. Run add in local paper "Services" section.


For what it is worth, they got the best results with #1 and #4. Good luck.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by steamer1234
Somebody keeps stealing my new Snowplow business signs . I have placed them in my neighborhood on State and GAS Company property. Has this happen to any of you. How do you guy’s advertise you businesses. I can’t afford to keep replacing these signs. Maybe somehow I can booby-trap the culprits, any ideal's. I am sure it's somebody with a snowplow business.
There may be local rules governing when signs can be put out. In most towns in this area you are allowed to put signs up on Friday and they must be picked up by noon on Monday morning. All the real estate developments hire people to put signs out and pick them up on the weekends. If signs are out too long they are picked up, including signs put out on the right of way. There are also rules that govern how far they need to be from the road. It might not hurt to see what the local rules and regulations for signs are.
 

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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Your right. Maybe I will put your name and address on the sign. Boy some people just can't take a joke. But for you other guys thanks for the good information.

Originally Posted by jwdeats
Yeah, maybe so. Maybe the cops would be too dumb to call the number listed on the booby-trapped sign.

If you are going to booby-trap a sign with your company name and <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=phone&v=56">phone</a> number on it, you might as well go ahead and leave your address so they won't have to look up that information to arrest you.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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3. Done mailers (local, printed themselves, also cheap)
I've done this for my business and it's reeeeal cheap and yields a good number of orders. This is great for advertising by geographical area. Just find a cheap local printer, and find a friend with a business that has a PRESORTED mail stamp and use it. The post office doesn't care whose stamp it is...at least mine doesn't. It's 16.2 cents for postage. For addresses, just run them in the USPS website for valid addresses.

You just gotta take the stuff to the post office's bulk mail door yourself to be sent off. It's usually a 24-48 hour turnaround from when I stick them in the post office to when they appear in the mailboxes!

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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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That's a great ideal and I know somebody with a stamp. I am sure the person with a stamp also knows a printer.
Thanks, reguy.

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I've done this for my business and it's reeeeal cheap and yields a good number of orders. This is great for advertising by geographical area. Just find a cheap local printer, and find a friend with a business that has a PRESORTED mail stamp and use it. The post office doesn't care whose stamp it is...at least mine doesn't. It's 16.2 cents for postage. For addresses, just run them in the USPS website for valid addresses.

You just gotta take the stuff to the post office's bulk mail door yourself to be sent off. It's usually a 24-48 hour turnaround from when I stick them in the post office to when they appear in the mailboxes!

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Best Advice: Just wait for it to snow! Treat them right and you will get more advertisement by word of mouth and repeat business for next year.....I live in the country with a 9' snow blower on the back of my tractor....I get calls from all over needing help and I do not want the business, I have to say no and they still insist.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by phil350
The wife helps her brother with an heating and air business. they have done the following:

1. Stuffed newspaper boxs(not mail)
2. Run yellow page add (not cheap)
3. Done mailers (local, printed themselves, also cheap)
4. Run add in local paper "Services" section.


For what it is worth, they got the best results with #1 and #4. Good luck.
Local Radio seems to work well and is not all that expensive. You can also tape the flier to the front outside of the mailbox in a baggy, that is what they do in my subdivision. One other idea, donate a few plow jobs to a local church. For one, it should be deductable and two, it would get your name out to people that would have a good impression of you from the start. Maybe find a church where most of the buisness people attend?
 

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