Hello
I am Richard an I live in the Netherlands.
I have a question that is not about a truck but about a car, but maybe you can help me.
I have a ford capri MK3 europe model. It had original a 2.3 V6 Koln engine, I converted it to a 2.8 v6 Koln engine. Now I can buy a brand new engine from an Explorer a 4.0 V6. Should this fit on my gearbo5-speed manual)?

Regards Richard

 

Welcome to FTE!

I doubt they will bolt up. The newer SOHC 4.0L has a dissimilar bellhousing to the 2.8L "cologne" engine used here in the States, so I cannot see it bolting up to what you have, either.

 

Actually, I think it should, but I wouldn't want to
gaurantee the tranny longevity... Is the trans a
type 9 5 speed??

SteveL

 

Bellhousing will bolt up.

bolt pattern on the sides of the block for motormounts may be different.

 

Hi guys,

So the 2.9-4.0 OHV bellhousing is exactly the same as the 4.0L SOHC? I thought there was some sort of issue with number of bolts or something like that?

TIA

 

All the Cologne V6 engines have the same bellhousings.

I don't know if the 4.0 SOHC is part of the Cologne family. I think I read it was an entirely different engine.

 

It seems that the SOHC uses a different bolt setup,they told me that somewhere on this board.
Should it be possible to place a carburator on it instead of an injectionsystem? Can I use a 2.8 or 2.9 manyfold on it?
It seems to be a european engine but is only used in american cars, there are almost no used parts available here in europe for this engine.

 

It's a Cologne engine, I think the flywheel bolt pattern is different,
not the bell housing... You know the Cologne has made it's way back
into a Mustang? It happens to be the base engine for the 2005...
and of course you all knew that the '74 Mustang 2 was designed around
the 2.8L and it's little tiny bell housing, and the M2 was the reason that
Ford stopped importing the Capri from Europe to sell by the Lincoln/Mercury
Division...

Now you can ask the reason...

SteveL

 

No, the 4.0 has a 3/4" (19mm) taller deck than the 2.8/2.9...

I'm kinda wondering why you don't pick a Cossie 2.9 for it...

SteveL

 

The cossie 24v is plenty available for a lower price, but the ecu on that engine is not so great. Is has a very slow power pickup if you compare it with a standard 2.9. I think his torqueband is at a much higer level. Maybe I can change that wit another ECU, any suggestions???
My idea for the 4.0 was to mount a carb on it, maybe I can do this with an 24v as well?

Richard

 

It's not the only ECU available, the money you save buying a 2.9L and
a tunable ECU will cost about the same as converting a 4.0 OHC to
run on carbs, as you'll still need an ignition system,,,

I don't see why not, but tripple Webers are going to cost a small
fortune, there is an old American adage, "how fast can you afford
to go?" The guy you need to get in touch with is Ian Jeffery, he's
done a 2.9 Cossie into a Mk3...

Just as an aside, There are three things to consider, Brutally Quick,
Brutally fast, and dead nuts reliable, which one are you going for??

SteveL

 

I want my car to be quick.
I am not exceeding speeds above 100Mph but it can drive about 125 Mph with the current setup.
Most of the time my max speed is about 80 Mph. And I want to get there very fast.
So I thought maybe with a 4.0 I have more torque than with the 2.8 so more torque means more acceleration.
And a someone I now has a 2.9 24V with an original ECU but can´t follow me with my current setup till about 70 Mph and then he goes very fast.
At the moment I drive my 2400 Lbs(1050kg) capri with an 3.22 axle, 5 speed gearbox and a carburated 2.8 135Hp instead of a 2.3 V6 114Hp.

 

The only problem with the 4.0L, is it'll run out of steam
at about 4500rpm. It is, afterall, a truck engine, so most
of the power is in the lower rpm range. The 2.9 could be
a better choice, mainly because it has a shorter stroke.
That and the fact that a Cossie will rev happily to 6500rpm
and beyond. The problem you'll encounter is the ignition
system, it tends to run out at about 6750rpm...

Now if you're looking for "brutally quick" a gear swap is the
way to go, going from the stock 3.22 to a 3.73 will do wonders
for the 2.9L and your Capri, having the 5 speed with the 0.8x
overdrive wont be that much of a detriment...

SteveL
Put your mouse pointer on the Signature in the top
right of this post...

 

The SOHC 4.0 won't be running out of steam at 4500. It doesn't peak in HP until around 5200 RPM. I'll agree that the old pushrod 4.0 starts to loose it's breath at those higher RPM's, but not the SOHC

 

I ran across a discussion of this subject in another forum, and a couple of the more credible guys over there offered these comments which seem to confirm what canzus indicated earlier: