Dealers Explaination of 5.4 death rattle

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Old 05-27-2004, 11:09 PM
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Dealers Explaination of 5.4 death rattle

Dealer: The rattling upon start-up is due to the lack of oil at the lifters from the oil running back down into the pan.

Me: I thought that there is no lifters because it's an overhead cam.

Dealer: There are some type of hydraulic cam followers.

Me: Oh, OK
 
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Old 05-29-2004, 12:13 AM
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They are better known as hydraulic lash adjusters. They work similiar to a lifter to keep the valve lash properly adjusted.
Did they say why the oil is "running back into the pan? The lash adjusters should still have oil in them at start-up.
How many miles on it?
 
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Old 05-29-2004, 08:47 PM
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I have 21,000 mi now and told him it started at about 7,000 mi.
No explaination of why the oil is running back into the pan.
 
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Old 05-29-2004, 09:46 PM
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If they can't repair it, I would make them install a new engine. It definately isn't right!!!
 
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Old 06-01-2004, 09:58 AM
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What kinda oil filter you using?
 
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I know there is no way they would change the engine, The dealer said that the noise is normal. I asked if it was piston slap and they said no.

Motorcraft filter.
 
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Old 06-02-2004, 09:35 AM
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i have a 2004 F250 SD with 5.4 it makes the lifter noise for about 2 scnds after starting. it starts and idles up high and than back down. by the time it goes down to normal idle the noise is gone. i have 7000 miles. other than that i love it. i started using Moble 1 and it's not as bad. i don't like how it goes to high idle when i start it.
 
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Old 06-02-2004, 05:46 PM
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I have a 2001 5.4L, in a F150 Super Crew with 105000+ miles on it, and it does NOT rattle, never has. Sounds like a load of bovine feces to me. That or I am just deaf or lucky.
 
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My 2001 with 38,000 miles has never ticked. It's not an exhaust leak is it?
 
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Try starting with your AC turned off and see if the noise stops. My 99 did the same when I left the AC turned on and it sounded bad. I think they put a delay in the 2002 and newer models. I notice my 2003 will not allow the AC to come on until after the motor starts. Ed
 
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My 2001 has a short delay before the compressor comes on after starting the engine too.
 
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My 2002 does not let the AC come on for a few seconds after the engine starts. I have 40000 and do not notice any rattles.
 
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Definately not the compressor, and it only happens when the engine is cold.
What is weird is that it is a lot louder on the passenger side than on the drivers side.
 
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I wonder if there is a problem with the chain tensioner. It uses oil pressure to keep the chain tight. Double check those exhaust manifold bolts. They have been know to slightly leak and it can sound like a lifter ticking.
 
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