4R100 Transmission Fluid Change
#121
I know lots of folks debate whether to change filters, but it really should be changed at it is the only part in there that will restrict fluid flow which is the reason I have lost transmissions in the past due to lack of fluid flow. Now, from lesson learned, I change the filter.
I have posted in other posts, my results of the filter conditions. The first 30K was the dirtiest from all the clutch materials and breakin gook. Second time was not as bad, but still to me, not clean enough. 3rd time at 90K, was pretty clean, actually material was bright pink since the white filter material was clean. And 4th time, same result, very clean.
Why go to all the trouble to drop the pan and not change the filter. Only $30 bucks vs over $4k transmission rebuild, but maybe that is just me being ****.
If my tranny goes now, I know it is not fluid restriction from a dirty filter and dirty fluid.
I have posted in other posts, my results of the filter conditions. The first 30K was the dirtiest from all the clutch materials and breakin gook. Second time was not as bad, but still to me, not clean enough. 3rd time at 90K, was pretty clean, actually material was bright pink since the white filter material was clean. And 4th time, same result, very clean.
Why go to all the trouble to drop the pan and not change the filter. Only $30 bucks vs over $4k transmission rebuild, but maybe that is just me being ****.
If my tranny goes now, I know it is not fluid restriction from a dirty filter and dirty fluid.
#122
That is caused either by a restriction in the cooler lines or coolers, or the bypass valve is stuck open.
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Right and wrong.
The E4OD (through 1998) had a shallow pan for 4x2 and a deep pan for 4x4. Starting with the '99 model year ALL 4R100 transmissions left the factory with deep pans. The shallow 4x2 pan was discontinued in production. That doesn't mean that someone could have changed pans later.
Waste of time. The seal can't do this, whether it is missing or there are two of them.
No.
No.
The E4OD (through 1998) had a shallow pan for 4x2 and a deep pan for 4x4. Starting with the '99 model year ALL 4R100 transmissions left the factory with deep pans. The shallow 4x2 pan was discontinued in production. That doesn't mean that someone could have changed pans later.
Waste of time. The seal can't do this, whether it is missing or there are two of them.
#123
Bolting on the 4x4 pan and appropriate filter was a "standard" upgrade whenever the valve body was changed, which was a very common mod.
Not really relevant to this conversation, but I thought I'd share anyway.
Stewart
#124
the new filter was exactly like the one removed which was purchased from the dealership. the parts guy didn't ask for any more details about my truck than the standard year, make, model, engine size. when i installed the new one i'm sure it was seated properly. now knowing there is restriction in my cooler or cooler lines or bypass valve is stuck open, what to do now? i drove my truck about 40 miles yesterday and it felt great.
#125
It will feel great. The problem will show up if the truck is working hard. The transmission will get too hot.
You need to inspect the lines from the transmission to the radiator and back looking for any damage. If you don't find any it could be a damaged or plugged cooler, or the bypass could be stuck open.
You need to inspect the lines from the transmission to the radiator and back looking for any damage. If you don't find any it could be a damaged or plugged cooler, or the bypass could be stuck open.
#127
Some torque converters have drain plugs ( around 2001 they stopped with the drain plugs) so you can remove plug and drain. If no drain plug, you will need to flush system.
#128
okay so I assume the bellhousing will have a removalbev inspection plate to see the plug from. if not drop the pan change the filter fill trans the by pulling the cooling line it will drain from the converter ? why wouldnt I just drain it from the drain in the pan ?
#129
Yes if yours has a drain plug you would have to remove inspection plate, if no drain plug I used this procedure:Changing ATF Fluid in a E4OD and 4R100 transmission .: Articles
It worked for me when I converted to full synthetic fluid, my 05 does not have a drain plug.
It worked for me when I converted to full synthetic fluid, my 05 does not have a drain plug.
#130
If you follow my procedure (see cbradford's post above) you will change the fluid in the torque converter.
#132
Really Old Trans Post
Just reading through the thread about changing transmission fluids, etc. I have been searching through here the last 4 days, because I had a blown head gasket on my 2000 F350 7.3L, got the info, rebuilt the top end, running strong again. While readingup on other things I might start considering doing to my truck, I was kind of embarassed that I hadn't paid the kind of attention other folks do to their vehicles. While I do engine oil changes every 7000 km or so (with filter), keep after air and fuel filters, I have not even thought about the transmission (except for the very occasional fluid top up) since it went out of warranty (for mileage) in June 2001. I have 1.4 million kilometers on my truck now, and I'm almost afraid to ask for advice on flushing the transmission, or just leaving it until it dies a natural death..... I trailer horses, and cars until the last 4 years when the farm took over all my time.
Ok, have at it.
Ok, have at it.
#133
#134
Really Old Trans Post
Actually, the dealer did a service in Ingersoll Ontario a few 100 km before the warranty ran out in June 2001, cost $100 or so, so I cannot claim original fluids. But after reading the posts about 25,000 Km or so regular fluid flushes, I'm getting nervous. I still use the truck daily, but no where near as hard as the first 10 years. But, still trailering regularly, just not the Ontario to Florida, and East to West trips I used to make with her.