Cummins sound!Detroid sound!Powerstroke sound!Are you guy's just kids?We have a great truck - Ford,with a great engine - Powerstroke,and with a great engine sound too !!! If some body don't like that,go to Dodge forum.They are a big funs of Cummins but don't think they are happy with Dodge truck itself.Don't get me wrong I like Cummins,but! whats wrong with the Powerstroke?

 

Whats wrong with the PSD?
1. Crap Mileage
2. lack of low end power
3. constant injector failure

Were you drunk when you posted last?

 

1.New Cummins have almost same mileage like Powerstroke.
2.Its enough power to do a job like Cummins.
3.Maybe you find it in 6.0 but not 6.4.


"Were you drunk when you posted last?" - Sorry,don't understand you here.

 

Your thought process seemed a little erratic, like a drunk persons would be. But I'm thinking thats just how you post... anyway-

The 6.4 gets HORRIBLE mileage, my dad bought an '09 F350 6.4 auto dually and is lucky to get 10 MPG loaded and 13 empty. My '08 CTD auto 3500 dually gets a shade under 16 empty and around 12 loaded (and by loaded I mean somewhere between 14-18K).

The PSD (6.0 and 6.4) have adequate power but have to rev so high to get a heavy load moving its not even funny. I would think that the constant high RPM's would be a lot of the reason the 6.0 had so many injector problems (mine had a s#itload) and why the 6.4 has so many turbo problems.

I wish they had never gotten rid of the 7.3

 

OK,I understand what you mean.About my post...maybe I wrote not so good like everyone,thats because I'm from another country....so..anyway..OK,my question is :You drive a Dodge,tell me from your experience about truck,is it really so bad quality truck itself or its just favorite words all Ford's man who drive Ford truck to bash Dodge truck? To be honest I so like Cummins,and for me its the best diesel,but why so many times I hear that Dodge truck itself is fall apart?

 

I've driven Dodges and Fords since 1993 when I bought my '93 Dodge 3500 CTD auto. Over the last 16 years I've actually lost more trannies in my Fords than I have my Dodges. The only time I've ever had a Dodge body fall apart around the CTD was a '98 2500 5 speed 4X4 I had. The truck still ran great but the body was shelled, it had 290K miles on it, and they were hard miles.

The CTD does (and always has) outperformed the PSD so bad its not even funny, but Ford keeps the rest of their truck well ahead of Dodge so its kind of a toss up IMO. I use my trucks to pull heavy loads often so the choice to go with the CTD is a no brainer, I had an '07 6.0 PSD and it was the worst truck I've ever owned, couldnt pull for crap, got bad mileage and went thru injectors every 10K. While I'm a big fan of the Ford V10 IDK if I will ever own another Ford Diesel again... unless they somehow land the CTD.

 

Yeah,my favorite is Ford F-350,manual shift,4X4,crew cab,long bed,'95-97' with CTD.One time I saw this truck on eBay around $11,000.

 

Ditto, if I could find a truck like that reasonably priced I would buy it in a heartbeat.

 

The Cummins 6.7 isn't all it's cracked up to be. Trying to rest on the laurels of the 5.9 isn't going to cut it for long.

Let's all shake Our heads, and cuss the EPA for ruining a good thing.

 

I have a 93 Cummins in my 48 Ford car hauler and an 02 7.3 Powerstroke in my pickup. I don't really want to keep a peeing match going here because I love both of them. However, that being said, I have never had a cam sensor leave me stranded with my 5.9 , and a set of injectors for a 5.9 doesnt cost 2,500.00 either. My 5.9 is a tough workhorse that is cheaper to operate than a 7.3, but I do like my 7.3 too. It really just boils down to personal preference. They are both very good pieces of equipment. Now the 6.0 PSD however is not something I plan to purchase.

 

I say because the other company's, Chevy or Ford, haven't put out a motor that can put the numbers out as easily as the Cummins. I love the DT360 swap idea, it doesn't need much but a pump and a decent turbo. internals handle anything Cummins has ever done.

 

YouTube - Super Modified Diesels in Idaho Falls

736 cubic inches vs. 360 cubic inches. Detroits sound really cool, but they're just big chainsaw motors when you think about it. I'm not a Dodge truck fan, but I do love the Cummins diesels they put in them.

p.s. The '91 Cummins in my Bronco has all stock parts on it other than exhaust, fuel pin, governor spring. I advanced the timing and turned up the fuel screw. I'm available to race if you want to give it a whirl, it's just a stock 360 inch Cummins, afterall.

p.s.s. I do like the early 6.9/7.3 motors, I have nothing bad to say about those beasties, I just prefer the early 12V Cummins. Unlike Duramax, which I freely insult any chance I get.

 

Weird, I own an IDI and I don't really like the sound of them straight piped. To me it sounds too much like a big block gasser V8, there's just nothing distinct about it.

 

Cousins 92 F350 7.3IDI sounded just like a gasser straight piped.

 

i would say that the main problem with the cummins is the truck it's put into, the dodge heavy-duty pick-ups. I've personally known more dodge pick-ups with problems than i did with ford pick-ups. why do you think Ford continues to outsell the competition in the fullsize truck market? the Super duty is really a through and through heavy hauler and tough truck. I've always been a Ford guy, my dad is Ford guy, his dad and my mom's dad are Ford guys and they'll tell you why they like Ford trucks. hell my brother worked for different mines in Nevada, and he says that all they used for work trucks were Fords becuase they knew that they were the best, he's not even that much of a Ford guy, but he gives credit where it is due, he even says that the people he worked with didn't even like Fords but they pretty much all said that they wouldn't use anything else to haul stuff. Dodges really only have one heavy duty built thing in their truck, the cummins, otherwise they are just luxury trucks with nice seats and chrome and power, same with Chevy pick-ups, they got power and the duramax, and luxury but nothing really much else, they are alot of fluff. Furthermore, Ford doesnt make a medium duty frame and front end and call the truck a superduty, but Dodge and Chevy both build a heavy duty pickup around a medium duty frame and front-end.