MAJOR traction problem in ice (duh) ;)
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MAJOR traction problem in ice (duh) ;)
98 Ford Ranger Supercab 4X4 5-Speed
We just got our first snowfall not long ago. Although the parking spaces in my apartment complex parking lot are rather bare, the driveway part is just a sheet of ice.
Our story begins as I back out of the space. I have absolutely no problems in reverse. However, when I switch into first gear, I am in a world of poo-poo. In 2WD my passenger side rear tire just spins and the truck barely moves. In 4WD both passenger side tires spin, but the driver side tires don't move at all.
As I'm "sliding" out of the parking lot, the truck is turning towards the left. Turning the wheel to the right helps little. Once I get on to the side street and my tires catch the blacktop, I can feel them catch; the truck then moves normally.
If I'm doing about 5 MPH or faster, such as coming from the side street into the parking lot, I am fine. However, if I don't have any momentum, the tires just keep spinning out! When I get out of the truck and walk to the rear, I smell a faint burning scent. It almost smells like burnt rubber or oil.
Would loading a couple hundred pounds in the bed alleviate this problem? what else could cause this? I hope it's nothing expensive cuz my CC is practically maxed out and I'm broke as hell
Tempe
We just got our first snowfall not long ago. Although the parking spaces in my apartment complex parking lot are rather bare, the driveway part is just a sheet of ice.
Our story begins as I back out of the space. I have absolutely no problems in reverse. However, when I switch into first gear, I am in a world of poo-poo. In 2WD my passenger side rear tire just spins and the truck barely moves. In 4WD both passenger side tires spin, but the driver side tires don't move at all.
As I'm "sliding" out of the parking lot, the truck is turning towards the left. Turning the wheel to the right helps little. Once I get on to the side street and my tires catch the blacktop, I can feel them catch; the truck then moves normally.
If I'm doing about 5 MPH or faster, such as coming from the side street into the parking lot, I am fine. However, if I don't have any momentum, the tires just keep spinning out! When I get out of the truck and walk to the rear, I smell a faint burning scent. It almost smells like burnt rubber or oil.
Would loading a couple hundred pounds in the bed alleviate this problem? what else could cause this? I hope it's nothing expensive cuz my CC is practically maxed out and I'm broke as hell
Tempe
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A few hundred pounds placed over the rear axle will help, yes. Whether it will completely cure the problem is something you'll have to find out by trying; sand bags at one convenience store here are $2.99 for 50 lbs. On the other hand, it would be nice if the property manager tossed some sand/gravel/salt/other ice melter on the icy patch. This would probably prove more effective than the weight will.
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If you put in stuff in the bed make sure it is low and if you can buckle it down. It can move around. Plus it can come through the cab if you hit someone. Co-worker is now a vegetable after he rear ended a tank truck and his tool box hit him in the back of the head about 2 month ago. Very sad.
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Start off in second or even third gear It will limit the torque to the wheels. My son showed this trick to a guy driving an F-150 the other day and got the "bird" for his help. I guess a 30 yr old couldn't take a driving lesson from an 18 yr old! My son was a little "disappointed" at the actions of an "adult".
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Also try applying your emergency brake a little, I'de say maybe half way but you really have to play with it to find out. The idea is to apply enough e-brake so as not to completly lock up the rear tires but enough to somewhat equal out the resistance between the two. This way here it will make the differential "think" that both tires are going to spin fairly evenly and the touqre will be more evenly split between the two. It will also help to "slow down" the tires a little. If you are in four wheel drive try holding you foot on the regualr brake(very intersting with a standard, takes practice), it will have the same effect as the e-brake but on all four wheels and you can modulate it better. The e-brake trick was the only way I was able to get a mercury grand marquis into my shop a week ago.
p.s. IT ONLY WORKS ON REAR(e-brake) OR FOUR WHEEL DRIVE(reg brakes) VEHICLES!!
p.s. IT ONLY WORKS ON REAR(e-brake) OR FOUR WHEEL DRIVE(reg brakes) VEHICLES!!
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I would call the complex manager or owner and tell there is a hazard of ice eveywhere, what if you slid sideways into a parked car, its rediculious they cant maintain the crap
I went thru it at a car wash employees didnt salt the exit of an automatic car wash, well all that water dripping off the cars exiting built up about 2" high ice, the chain had already drug the next car in and my truck needed out i press the gas trying to get out 2wd limited slip both tires spun the side of my new stepside slid into some nasty concrete bricks that were quite corse and rough
I went in really pissed off and 2 employees were working 18 year old kids who were to cold and lazy to go out and do part of their job just cuased $500 in damage got the owners number talked to them told them the situation and that I had pics of all the ice and that it wasnt salted at all, I had a check the next week I provided 3 estimates, what a hassle, the employees took polaroids of everything per the manager, Im sure the owner knew right away when he saw it
Pretty impossible to jump a 2" ice curb with a 2wd truck
2nd gear starting does help alot, alot of ford autos will start in 2nd if you put in 2, my gtp has a 2nd gear start switch, one fellow I knew called it "torque reduction" on his e4od
I went thru it at a car wash employees didnt salt the exit of an automatic car wash, well all that water dripping off the cars exiting built up about 2" high ice, the chain had already drug the next car in and my truck needed out i press the gas trying to get out 2wd limited slip both tires spun the side of my new stepside slid into some nasty concrete bricks that were quite corse and rough
I went in really pissed off and 2 employees were working 18 year old kids who were to cold and lazy to go out and do part of their job just cuased $500 in damage got the owners number talked to them told them the situation and that I had pics of all the ice and that it wasnt salted at all, I had a check the next week I provided 3 estimates, what a hassle, the employees took polaroids of everything per the manager, Im sure the owner knew right away when he saw it
Pretty impossible to jump a 2" ice curb with a 2wd truck
2nd gear starting does help alot, alot of ford autos will start in 2nd if you put in 2, my gtp has a 2nd gear start switch, one fellow I knew called it "torque reduction" on his e4od
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