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Looks like ATSG is claiming all '95+ E4OD's got an updated OD roller clutch kit. Am I missing where it's claiming RV's got the upgrade? It's even claiming all in bold. You guys may be correct. It's just the first I've heard of it, is all. Still, it's not yet known if the '91 spag assembly has failed after 500k miles anyway. What if the OD clutches are simply wore out? Could you even make the claim that a '95 E4OD will last more than the 500k miles the pre' '95 version did anyway?
Come on guys. Nothing lasts forever. 500k on anything is major win. I've never had anything last that long. Doubt I ever will.
lower in the same screenshot says the ALL EXCEPT MOTORHOME (f150, f250, etc) then part number, then the motorhome part number
That’s not good. It seems more like a rebuild or replacement is needed.
The front axle randomly engaging could be bad the u-joints at the knuckles. I don’t see how it got enough to “boil” the gear oil. You could leave the hubs locked all year long and drive in 2wd if you want to.
im guessing the transfercase did something first and then my hubs did. im not sure but i pulled the front drive shaft and had to pull the hubs off to get it out of 4x4 and then everything spun ok. but it did get hot enough to boil out all of the gear oil through the axle seal (ig you've never heard that sound i suggest you dont. its like boiling water but alot more violent) so it at least needs that
can anyone confirm if the carrier is the same between the 410s and 355 gears?
I have no idea what you mean. What is a “slug in the axle?”
the sliding portion behind the manual hub. everyone usually calls them "slugs" since its a chunk of metal but its more popular woth jeeps and general motors products, but gm products use a sliding sleeve now and have since sometime in the 80s on everything below a 3/4
ive never heard them called that, but my only 4wd that old is a 3/4 ton and uses spicer (dana 44) front hub locker are you talking about this stuff?
the heavier duty version yes. i have the weird dana 50 that ive heard called a 55 here and other places because of the larger rim center and diameter spindle among other things like the hubs just being different. its been a real issue finding stuff that actually fits it since its the odd one out just like the suburban i picked up (why its using ww2 jeep stuff i dont know but its all stamped with gm parts numbers so who knows)
im pretty much stuck finding another 4:10 heavy duty plus or whatever ford called it like i did last time for the bulk of the parts
im guessing the transfercase did something first and then my hubs did. im not sure but i pulled the front drive shaft and had to pull the hubs off to get it out of 4x4 and then everything spun ok. but it did get hot enough to boil out all of the gear oil through the axle seal (ig you've never heard that sound i suggest you dont. its like boiling water but alot more violent) so it at least needs that
can anyone confirm if the carrier is the same between the 410s and 355 gears?
You can run the transfer case in 4H or 4L and not lock the hubs. All that does is turn everything except you aren’t applying that power to the ground. You could also lock the hubs and leave the transfer case in 2H which spins/ freewheels everything in the front end which is what you would do when you will need 4wd often. I still find it very hard to believe that it got hot enough to boil the gear oil unless there wasn’t any or very little oil in the diff.
The hubs only need a very light coating of grease. If you put too much grease on the hubs then, yes, they will not lock and unlock like they are supposed to.
Originally Posted by cartercarbaficionado
the sliding portion behind the manual hub. everyone usually calls them "slugs" since its a chunk of metal but its more popular woth jeeps and general motors products, but gm products use a sliding sleeve now and have since sometime in the 80s on everything below a 3/4
I have never heard the body of the locking hub called a slug even when I was regularly on a CJ forum while I was rebuilding my Jeep.
Originally Posted by cartercarbaficionado
the heavier duty version yes. i have the weird dana 50 that ive heard called a 55 here and other places because of the larger rim center and diameter spindle among other things like the hubs just being different. its been a real issue finding stuff that actually fits it since its the odd one out
im pretty much stuck finding another 4:10 heavy duty plus or whatever ford called it like i did last time for the bulk of the parts
F-250 trucks would have either had the Dana 44HD or Dana 50 depending on what drivetrain was installed. It is not weird at all. You will definitely have a hard time find parts for a Dana 55 since that doesn’t exist.
this explains alot. its a dana 60 spindle and components tacked onto the ifs according to the part number on the spindle and it looks exactly like the one on the 99 f250 hd thats sitting next to it.
weird that ive found more than one that are like this since it shouldn't be the same upright assembly but it is. so the spring behind the "slug" is missing ill have to find one that fits correctly since a spare dana 44 and dana 50 spring are both the wrong diameter for the spring pocket after trying to install it so i probably need to grab the one out of a dana 60 or 70 thats laying in the scrap yard.
this certainly explains the oversized brakes and f350 and bigger convertible calipers
this explains alot. its a dana 60 spindle and components tacked onto the ifs according to the part number on the spindle and it looks exactly like the one on the 99 f250 hd thats sitting next to it.
weird that ive found more than one that are like this since it shouldn't be the same upright assembly but it is. so the spring behind the "slug" is missing ill have to find one that fits correctly since a spare dana 44 and dana 50 spring are both the wrong diameter for the spring pocket after trying to install it so i probably need to grab the one out of a dana 60 or 70 thats laying in the scrap yard.
this certainly explains the oversized brakes and f350 and bigger convertible calipers
are you saying it does NOT Match the pictures above? Because there IS dana 50 information for 98.5 f series , but i assumed it was a Dana 50 from a 1991 F250. if its a newer axle I can get you the diagram for the newer deal, but if you got the LIST number off the housing you could speed up this considerably
Its litterally on every dana out there.
Theres also a number on the area around the diff cover in the front of the truck where it says the model of axle (44, 50, 60)
