I was fooling around on the ol interwebs today and I got to thinking about seeing how much a set of reman injectors would be for a '96 powerstroke. Then I remembered seeing that there were different style injectors. So my questions for yall are, one, what exactly are the differences between injector styles, and two, can you run the other style injectors like off of a superduty on these old pickups, would it make a difference in the way they run?
Thanks yall.

 

What are your goals and how big is your wallet?

SD injectors (double shots) can be used if using a tune that uses them. Do you have a tuner?

 

If you go for reman injectors hit up Rosewood diesel. Tell them your goals and they will set you up for what you need

 

The cost of remand is pretty close to the same for single shot and split shot injectors. The SD (split shots) need tuning to work well in an OBS truck. As mentioned, if you think you need injectors, call Rosewood and let him set you up

 

a third here for Jim at rosewood. tell him what you want to do and are running for tunes, and he will match you up with the proper injectors.

 

I have a Hydra tuner that I'm just running stock tunes from full force diesel, but they're easy enough to reprogram, I was just wondering what all would be needed to change injectors and just dinking around, I'll probably just go with stock reman injectors, when I absolutely need them, I was just wondering if it would increase power with the different injectors and if they'd even work in these pickups. It's just a farm pickup so its nothing too fancy or fast.

 

I do have a Hydra Tuner in my pickup, if I did end up going with split shot injectors, this would be an easy tuner to change for my needs, correct?

 

injectors are easy to change once VC is off

Stock injectors are about 50 HP underpowered.
A chip can give you the extra 50 HP but you need to watch EGTs if towing with out an intercooler.

 

Short answer: yes

but why would you do that? Are you planning to install used super duty injectors? If you plan to buy new ones you don’t gain anything by buying super duty injectors. Just have yours refreshed and keep trucking. No reason to make it really complicated.

 

I was just curious if it could be done and if so what difference it would make putting super duty injectors in one of these old rigs, if you'd get more power, better fuel efficiency, etc. I'll probably just end up going with regular reman injectors when I really need them but I was just curious.

 

SD split shots were installed as I am convinced for noise reduction, hence the pilot injection.

Most common size upgrade are 160/0s, stock is around 90cc. 160 is the fuel volume at full load in cubic centimetres. The 0 refers to the nozzle being 0% larger than stock. Bigger nozzle allows one to inject more fuel for a given injection event, in the same time allotment. 160s add quite a bit more *** to the truck when you have the supporting mods to burn all the fuel. Most do not like the 180s and if you want that size, just go to hybrids.

I run small hybrids, 205/30s, on my five speed dually, work fine for me...I even test drove it for the hell of it on stock tuning. Drove fine, EGTs up as I knew due to the fuel input is increased. Turned down that far they apparently act around 90/30s with the injection time allowed for stock. 90/30 is like a 'hot street' tune for one of these and actually was nice driving. Plenty of pep for normal truck stuff.

Hybrids are also easier on your HPO system, but a fresh pump helps fuel atomization and makes the truck drive better. Lower EGT, more power, more boost. No downside. You will also need good uppipes, verify the manifolds do not leak (yes it happens). I recommend good valve springs, many of us do the Comp 910s as the heads take a beating from soft springs stock. My tools are on here somewhere with a member, just forget who has them. HD pushrods are a great idea as stockers can and do bend. Mind the OE damper, it can delaminate. Fresh LPOP never bad idea.



TAKE NOTE - the bigger the stick, the more trans work you need to think about. An E4OD I would gamble with a good SK like the TransGo Tugger or my preference the Superior Power Tow kit. Pair with a triple clutch low stall converter and a good cooler, you might get it to hold for a while even with miles. The pump requires a ton of mods, since out I would toss in that Sonnax spiral snap ring while access is easy. My 4R100 has a drain plug pan, check to see if your E4OD has one. Both should fit each other. Five speed? A single mass fly with a good 13" friction can get you far, I think the limit for a mild 13" organic like the Luk is about 350-375rwhp area. My clutch is SB's OFE, it likes more power put into it to drive easier. Odd sounding I know. With my injector choice, I should have go with their HD Organic instead but initially I wanted 238/100s hence that clutch choice.

 

no matter what you do, call Jim at Rosewood and talk to him. He’s been in this business for many years and is very knowledgeable. He built my 160/0s 10 years ago that are still running strong today. I had them in my 97 dually 4x4 and moved them to my wife’s 97 SRW 2x4 and like I said they’re still doing great.

he also built my 160/80s for the dually, they’re new in box though waiting on the block to come back so I can get it together and try them out.