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Customer brings me a truck that was on property he bought. 83 f150 4x4 with a 5.8 automatic. Wants carb. (His is completly gone... supposedly someone took it to rebuild and it's gone). Looked on autozone (have commercial account) and they have many.... some with high altitude, some with climatic choke? Some are Motorcraft vv model? Which would I need.
Well the VV is Variable Venturi I would need to look up what climatic choke is?
Found this from phscollectorcarworld: PHS Tech Series: Carter Climatic Control Automatic Choke Carter carburetor made an automatic style choke for their carb called Climatic Control. It was a bit complicated compared to later designs reliant on a bimetallic spring and ambient heat. The Climatic Control relied on three things; intake manifold vacuum, exhaust heat and speed of air going through the carb air horn. There's a thermostatic coil spring assembly with piston housing, choke valve, lever, piston and screen.
So the way I read it if you have intake manifold heat and electric it is Climatic Control Choke.
Dose the intake have a way to get heat to the choke?
I am guessing it dose not so I would get a basic non VV carb that will work with a auto.
Now being a 4x4 I dont think it would be a AOD but if it is make sure when you hook up the cable from the trans you adjust it right or you can burn up the trans.
Is there a junk yard that may have something that could be rebuilt or even turned in for a core.
Dave ----
I didn't see anything special as far as heat to the carb like the mustang did at that time. I also didn't see any kick down cable. I looked at it 45 seconds while I was getting the vin. The owner didn't know the year or engine so I ran over there and looked. Everything else is intact and the holes in the manifold was covered up with rags at least. Lol.
Maybe you will get lucky and the truck has a C6 trans, think they only have a vacuum line?
If he dose not need to do smog you may want to look into a Holley 2300 carb.
After see how much the AZ carbs were going for
They come in a 350 CFM and a 500 CFM I cant see why a 350 would not work?
For either the factory carb or the Holley, might check out Ebay
Dave ----
Guy just wants it to drive during winter salt season. He has money. Moved here a year ago as a third home. I do a lot of work on his stuff (old tractors/ ATV and newer cars usually). Don't care about price really but with my account I can get one from autozone for 225-350 depending on which one. Just a decent carb that fits and works is all he cares. There is a vacuum can behind the carb with about 20 lines running around it. At least two going into intake under the carb. 2 barrel intake.
Honestly I wouldn't expect him to ever drive the truck at all. Lol. Generally I fix his stuff and he parks it. Drives a new f150 and a new suburban. Has a 2015 or so subaru too that I've fixed.
Had a neat 40 model Plymouth taxi cab sitting beside. I spent more time looking at it then the f150. Lol
Motorcraft VV is a variable venturi carb. It may have had one of those on it but I would not put one of those back on it. If you just want to get it running, one of those universal ones on Amazon or Ebay should work.
Motorcraft VV is a variable venturi carb. It may have had one of those on it but I would not put one of those back on it. If you just want to get it running, one of those universal ones on Amazon or Ebay should work.
Yeah he wants it running. Nobody cares if it's "what came on it" and the truck is pretty ratty. Just a "in the salt" truck. No need for an intake or adapter and 4 barrel that's easy too big like most people want when they come to my shop. Lol. And he is paying so ill probably deal with autozone. When (not if) things don't work id rather deal with my commercial guy at the zone than ebay.
Maybe you will get lucky and the truck has a C6 trans, think they only have a vacuum line?
If he dose not need to do smog you may want to look into a Holley 2300 carb.
After see how much the AZ carbs were going for
They come in a 350 CFM and a 500 CFM I cant see why a 350 would not work?
For either the factory carb or the Holley, might check out Ebay
Dave ----
No need for smog. Just wants a carb that works... and I don't want a bunch of "making it work".
No need for smog. Just wants a carb that works... and I don't want a bunch of "making it work".
If the truck has a Motorcraft v2 on it now the Holley 2300 should be a bolt on.
May need to move the fuel line to feed it, only 1 vacuum hose for dist. vacuum advance and may need a ball part the throttle cable hooks to.
I replaced the MC carb on my 75 AMC Gremlin with a factory 304 v8 with the Holley 2300, and under the factory air filter you cant tell it is a Holley carb that runs a whole lot better.
I only say the 2300 Holley as it may be cheaper than a carb that AZ said fits the truck after looking at the prices on AZ.
Good luck
Dave ----
If the truck has a Motorcraft v2 on it now the Holley 2300 should be a bolt on.
May need to move the fuel line to feed it, only 1 vacuum hose for dist. vacuum advance and may need a ball part the throttle cable hooks to.
I replaced the MC carb on my 75 AMC Gremlin with a factory 304 v8 with the Holley 2300, and under the factory air filter you cant tell it is a Holley carb that runs a whole lot better.
I only say the 2300 Holley as it may be cheaper than a carb that AZ said fits the truck after looking at the prices on AZ.
Good luck
Dave ----
Right now it has no carb. Just rags stuffed into the two holes in the intake. "Supposedly" it was taken off to rebuild and whoever took it stole it/ took too long and died or something. The current owner bought the home/ 2 buisness and probably 20 tractor and cars together from auction. The truck appears complete other than the carb so perhaps the story is accurate. Lol.
Id love to stick a stock rebuilt carb in it and send it on. I just don't know what it had to begin with. I may ride over there and take a picture under the hood. I did glance at it and got the vin just to confirm the year. Its kept indoors and looks solid enough to fix. Under the hood it looked pretty complete. Not a bunch of cut wires or in plugged lines.
I've Done some bigger jobs for the guy. Money is good and he is a good customer. He just wants this one running though. Not a coyote or 460 swap. They (over) salt the roads here and he wants it to run locally in.
I don't have any of these truck to look at. I have 60 trucks. I have 2 70s trucks. Have a couple efi 90s trucks. Have several 2000s trucks. The only 80s trucks we have are some Chevy dumps and a c10 with a 454 vortec we put in it.
Id like to just autozone him a carb like the truck would have had and get the truck gone. The last job I had was a simple "fix the 4x4" in a wheeling buggy that the longer I had it the more got put into it and added on. If like to get this one give before that happens again honestly
You can buy 2 of them for the price listed on AZ for a bolt on carb
Dave ----
My commercial guy can get me the AZ carb for 300 ish regardless of which one. And again IT'S A CUSTOMERS VEHICLE. Id rather him pay more and it not come back than get a cheap one that don't work and I have to send it back and wait 3 months or something. You can buy 10 Amazon Chinese carb for atv for 1 factory mikuni or keihin.... but they NEVER work right. The factory one last 30 years and the Chinese copy will run a day and need adjusted the next or leak everywhere or not tach up or something. Ive had too many customers bring those 15 dollar knock offs. Out of probably 25 ive seen exactly 1 that ran correctly for any amount of time.
The their truck carb is no better than their atv/ saw carbs then id gladly pay triple for a decent one. Lol.
If it were my own truck.....I may well try the cheap carb.
I don't see that many options on Autozone. Yes they have many listed, but a bunch of them are not available. I would pick the simplest one for a automatic and buy it. No high altitude, no California emissions.
I don't see that many options on Autozone. Yes they have many listed, but a bunch of them are not available. I would pick the simplest one for a automatic and buy it. No high altitude, no California emissions.
It's those two or variable venturi. I can always get one for a different year though if it's better. Non variable or something