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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 02:10 AM
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Can the sector gear on my 56 F100 be removed from the rod assembly with an arbor press. I tried with a punch and a single jack and couldn't even budge it. I found a two ton arbor press on line and was hoping to use it for this job. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 04:19 AM
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IMHO, If your hammer and punch isn't working, a 2 ton arbor press is probably too small. Looking at your intro post, it seems you may have more press work in the future and may suggest you go the route I have - the Harbor Freight 20 ton press. I haven't used is specifically on a sector gear, but used it on many spindles, water pumps, axles, bearings, straighting bent things, bending things and so on...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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IMHO, If your hammer and punch isn't working, a 2 ton arbor press is probably too small. Looking at your intro post, it seems you may have more press work in the future and may suggest you go the route I have - the Harbor Freight 20 ton press. I haven't used is specifically on a sector gear, but used it on many spindles, water pumps, axles, bearings, straighting bent things, bending things and so on...
Thanks for your reply, I'll check it out. I was able to remove the king pins with a hammer and punch fairly easily. I got that all together now. I'm cleaning up the backing plates now and the engine compartment. when I finish I'll reinstall the strait axle.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 06:33 PM
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If you are talking about the steering worm gear, it is supposed to be heated before pressing. As I recall, somewhere around 250°. Same for installation of a new one. If you are replacing it, you can also cut thru it enough to split it.
Previous thread on the subject, pictures are kind of messed up tho: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post7273348
 
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Thanks for your reply. I was talking about the sector rod gear. But I'm grateful for the information regarding worm gear. It helps me to make a decision on which way to go. I can buy the worm gear already attached to the steering shaft for $137.00. The problem is I can't find the sector rod assembly. I can get the gear but I need to be able to press the old one off and the new one on. I checked out Harbor Freight for a press but decided to first take it to an auto parts place I know and see if they can do it. I'll find out tomorrow. Thought I would post a pic of what I'm starting with.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2023 | 03:16 PM
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sector gear removal

I just heard from the place where I took my sector rod assembly to have the gear pressed out and the new one pressed in. He told me that judging from the replacement pin measurement that in order to remove the old one the end had to be ground out and then pressed out. The replacement pin is installed and heated to about 2 thousand degrees hammered to the larger diameter of the hole. Kind of like a rivet is how he explained it. An operation that he didn't have the tool to perform. So he's going to give ma=e a place he thinks might be able to do. Doesn't sound right to me. I'll be picking it up tomorrow. Any comments or advise will be appreceiated.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2023 | 01:21 AM
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Well I should check my shop manual a little more frequently and closely. Having done so I noticed that, in a cutaway view of the steering gear assembly, it shows exactly what sector pin looks like. Now I believe I can replace it on my own. Any comments will be welcome. I'll post a pic of the cutaway.

56 f100 steering box cutaway
 
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 02:05 AM
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I got the sector gear off. It never could have been pressed out due to gear shaft being heated and flanged on both ends. I tried to drill it but it was too hard for my drill. Finally I cut through the gear and then through the shaft and tapped it out with a punch easily. I got the gear installed. Tomorrow I will heat the ends of the gear shaft or pin, I don't know the proper name for it, just trying to make the distinction between it and the sector shaft that connects to the pitman arm, use a hammer and a punch to flare it out. If I am unable to accomplish it that way, I'll either have to get a press or use my welder. Not sure the welder is a good way to go?
 
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I would think a couple of punches on each end of the pin with a sharp punch will hold it. There's no real pressure on the pin in service.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 11:50 AM
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You actually tack weld the ends.

Here are instructions from Classic Performance Products:
 
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Wish I had that tech sheet before I started. Thanks, it's very informative.
 
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Cool follow up on sector gear.

Just wanted to follow up on steering gear box rebuild. I decided to put a small weld on the sector shaft to keep it in place. It's all together now and working well. Thanks to everyone who responded. It was a big help. Still hoping to locate an original automatic steering column.
I have discovered that one of my drum brake bearing hubs is from another vehicle. After buying the seals, bearings and races I found that one of the seal openings is slightly bigger than the seal. Checking further I found that brake drum does not fit snugly on the hub center hole. Luckily I saved the old seal and I think I can find a new one. The next problem is finding or making a ring to take up the gap in the center so the drum is centered on the hub. Or try to find another hub which, I thought, would be fairly easy considering all the disc brake conversions that others are doing on these trucks. So far I've been on line today and found nothing, but tomorrow is another day. Just another bump in the road; as my mom used to say. Any comments or advise will be welcome.
Cheers, Rick
 
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Old Sep 22, 2023 | 06:32 AM
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Presuming you are discussing a 56 F-100 front hub, it should be B3C-1104-A which supercedes the earlier TAAA-1104-A and TAAA-1104-B.

I would get in contact with Chucks Trucks LLC and talk with him about your needs. He could probably hook you up with the correct serviceable part.

I would hesitate greatly at trying to move forward with the odd hub and trying to further adapt it.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2023 | 11:46 AM
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I agree that you should find the correct parts, not try to "make do".

Is it possible you have F-1 hubs? Here is a thread with similar problems: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post20454489


 
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Old Sep 22, 2023 | 11:49 AM
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I too suspect that the 8C-1104 hub is the imposter. It is the closest match in my parts book dimensionally. But again, get in touch with Chuck and use the correct part.
 
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