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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 11:58 AM
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1996 F350 7.3L Engine Control Computer

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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Sally Mander
Does anyone have any ideas where would you buy an Engine Control Computer for a 1996 F350 Diesel 7.3L Crew Cab #F6TF-12A650-AYE? I'm kinda new to this and can't find the part anywhere.

The problem is when the truck is driving down the road, it suddenly downshifts at the wrong time. This makes it unreliable. We've replaced 3 transmissions in it, this one only has 30,000 miles on it.
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YOU HAVE NOT DETERMINED YOUR ECM IS BAD. Lets start with what have you done for your truck for repairs, does your TAIL LAMPS (all 3) work properly and with brake pressed, do you have incandescent bulbs in those lamps, and do you have any trailer wiring on this truck

What other issues are you having. Have you considered, just once in all of this, TO CHECK FOR CODES?

We can help you but youre taking a very pin the tail on the donkey kind of game to be replacing 3 transmissions before you even check for codes, let alone power and grounds.
 
Old Oct 8, 2022 | 04:18 PM
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It hasn't thrown up any codes, and it hasn't with any of the three transmissions, in 90,000 miles. Sometimes while in 1st gear, it shifts into 3rd gear and almost kills the engine. That's why I'm looking for a computer. It would eliminate if that is the problem. I just can't find the computer. Everyone is out of stock.
 
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Originally Posted by Sally Mander
It hasn't thrown up any codes, and it hasn't with any of the three transmissions, in 90,000 miles. Sometimes while in 1st gear, it shifts into 3rd gear and almost kills the engine. That's why I'm looking for a computer. It would eliminate if that is the problem. I just can't find the computer. Everyone is out of stock.
Your diagnosis flow is not computing. Explain how you go from Sometimes in 1st, goes to 3rd. therefore, ECM must be replaced

That doesnt click , compute, etc. Have you checked for codes because you saying it hasnt thrown codes is different than check engine light, for example, being on or off.
 
Old Oct 8, 2022 | 04:57 PM
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Check for codes with a scanner capable of reading transmission codes, getting codes read at parts store are not able to read trans codes or many codes on these older trucks.
 
Old Oct 8, 2022 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by z31freakify
Check for codes with a scanner capable of reading transmission codes, getting codes read at parts store are not able to read trans codes or many codes on these older trucks.
I dont know how the diesels work but the codes wouldnt be special id think which means they should be readable how other codes for the engine running is read. i know it has an additional module, so maybe that adds the complexity
 
Old Oct 8, 2022 | 05:19 PM
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It's a 1 1/2 hour tow to the closest transmission diagnostics. Replacing the computer is a win-win for me. If it fixes it, that's great, if it doesn't fix it, then I have 2 good computers.
 
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Originally Posted by Sally Mander
It hasn't thrown up any codes, and it hasn't with any of the three transmissions, in 90,000 miles. Sometimes while in 1st gear, it shifts into 3rd gear and almost kills the engine. That's why I'm looking for a computer. It would eliminate if that is the problem. I just can't find the computer. Everyone is out of stock.
Ebay...about $500. It doesn't have to matter about the actual PCM code, so long as the hardware number is "DPC-202".

However, shifting to 3rd at low speeds will not, in itself, kill the engine. These start out in 4th when there's no B+ to the solenoids. Shifting to 3rd and applying the torque converter clutch at the SAME TIME will. 4x4? If so, you need to monitor the "4x4 low" input to the PCM. If the PCM is being fed info that a shift to low range has occurred while you're doing 10 MPH, the transmission will be commanded to 3rd and probably lock up the torque converter too.

The reason the PCM cares is that if it doesn't know the transfer case is in low range, the transmission won't shift out of first until the engine is at about 2800 RPM. By having a low range input, the shift scheduling speed is divided by 2.7x times.




 
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Old Oct 8, 2022 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Sally Mander
It's a 1 1/2 hour tow to the closest transmission diagnostics. Replacing the computer is a win-win for me. If it fixes it, that's great, if it doesn't fix it, then I have 2 good computers.
That isnt how i would approach it personally but free country
 
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Ebay...about $500. It doesn't have to matter about the actual PCM code, so long as the hardware number is "DPC-202".

However, shifting to 3rd at low speeds will not, in itself, kill the engine. These start out in 4th when there's no B+ to the solenoids. Shifting to 3rd and applying the torque converter clutch at the SAME TIME will. 4x4? If so, you need to monitor the "4x4 low" input to the PCM. If the PCM is being fed info that a shift to low range has occurred while you're doing 10 MPH, the transmission will be commanded to 3rd and probably lock up the torque converter too.

The reason the PCM cares is that if it doesn't know the transfer case is in low range, the transmission won't shift out of first until the engine is at about 2800 RPM. By having a low range input, the shift scheduling speed is divided by 2.7x times.
Yes, it is 4x4.
 
Old Oct 8, 2022 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sally Mander
. Replacing the computer is a win-win for me. If it fixes it, that's great, if it doesn't fix it, then I have 2 good computers.
Wrong way of thinking. Probably a lose-lose situation.
You will end up with a broken truck and two broken computers.
You have diagnosed nothing.
 
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forscan. download it, than get an OBD adapter to plug your computer into the truck to see what is wrong with it.
is your overdrive light blinking? i bet it is. that is telling you there is a problem with the truck.
as others have already said, replacing the PCM without knowing what the problem is, is a waste of money.
 
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forscan. download it, than get an OBD adapter to plug your computer into the truck to see what is wrong with it.
is your overdrive light blinking? i bet it is. that is telling you there is a problem with the truck.
as others have already said, replacing the PCM without knowing what the problem is, is a waste of money.
It's not throwing any codes, the overdrive light isn't blinking. All of the diagnostics have been previously done by transmission guys and even Ford. Everyone has said a new PCM is the next step.

When I stated that I'm new to this, it wasn't new to diagnosing the problems, it was new to the forum.
 

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Old Oct 9, 2022 | 10:28 AM
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Most failed PCM 's can be diagnosed visually. Pull it out, open it up and look at the 2 or 3 capacitors for leaking or bulging. If so you have a PCM problem.
 
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