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Old Feb 18, 2021 | 03:24 PM
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351W Build

Afternoon fellas,
Ive been tossing around the idea of building my 83 F150 with the 351w in it, 4 on the floor. I'll start with the following Mods I've done to it...
-Flow-Tech 1 1/2 long tubes
-Weiand Stealth manifold
-Holley 600 with Vac secondaries
-D.U.I ignition
-Edlebrock 110 Pump
I have no HP goal in mind just something with more kick to it, I think my next step would be a Cam and Heads. I have basic knowledge just get a little confused when we start getting into the good stuff LOL. Ive been reading up on what i can with these builds just haven't really seen anyone that wants to keep stock internals. Ive seen AFR 165 or the 185s,or even some Trick-Flow heads. I'm just worried about the PTV clearance with bigger valves (1.9/2.02?) or what other clearances id be messing with. I plan on keeping the stock pistons for now atleast until I have reason otherwise to tear it apart, when the time comes I'll be looking into a 393 stroker of some sort. Open to aftermarket heads definitely or if theres another stock head that'll get me close to the performance ones. As for the cam setup I'm considering a roller setup with those conversion lifters. Just not really sure which one would work good with what specific head. Its not daily driven, more of a weekend toy. Im looking for your guys opinion on what setup will really wake this thing up. Any info is much appreciated Thanks in advanced
 
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Old Feb 19, 2021 | 12:14 PM
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Welcome to FTE.

I am not up on performance motor hop ups but there is a performance area lower down the page so may want to look in there for information on what works and dose not work.
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Getting rid of the stock Ford heads is going to really wake that engine up. You do not have to guess at what parts to install if you want to go with the edelbrock power package. They already set this up and tested it on a dyno and got 400hp and 412 lb/ft torque. In the link below it shows the package and whats included with all the part numbers. You already have a intake, so you can order all the other parts individually, or you may be able to call them and they will sell you the package without the intake. Or buy the package and sell your intake.

https://www.edelbrockspeedshop.com/S...&Submit=Search
 
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Old Feb 20, 2021 | 07:44 AM
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Thanks for the info guys, I’ve been looking into the edlebrock top end kits I just can’t justify the 2600 for everything altogether. I figure I should be able to put something together a little bit cheaper.
Say I went with the edlebrock e-street 170s or the edlebrock performers, would they be good match for the 351w? and if so which cam would you guys recommend for more low and mid power without killing my stock pistons.
 
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Originally Posted by Spoolin67
Thanks for the info guys, I’ve been looking into the edlebrock top end kits I just can’t justify the 2600 for everything altogether. I figure I should be able to put something together a little bit cheaper.
Say I went with the edlebrock e-street 170s or the edlebrock performers, would they be good match for the 351w? and if so which cam would you guys recommend for more low and mid power without killing my stock pistons.
I don't understand your thinking here? I did a quick search for the e-street heads, they are right at $1000 for the pair. The heads in the package I listed are $819.50 per pair at Summit Racing.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2021 | 08:03 AM
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I’m kinda leaning towards the performer ones I know they’d be 1600 for the pair. I feel like you get what you pay for and I’ve read some bad reviews on the e-street heads. Now talking about it more the top end kit is starting to like it’s worth it LOL. I’ll see if I can get them on the horn and ask about the manifold like you mentioned
Edit : Sorry I think I misread what you said before , 819$ for the pair? And the link you listed does not seem to work
 
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Old Feb 20, 2021 | 08:16 AM
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For the original package list, put in "edelbrock 2092" in a google search. One of the results will be a edelbrock page that has all the part numbers in the package that you can plug into google.

In the package list they have the heads as part number 60259. I plugged that into google and the summit racing link came up and I clicked on that. The summit racing page said "heads" not "head" so I am assuming it was for a pair but you need to look closely to make sure.

If you plug in "edelbrock e-street 170" in google I got several hits, and all of them were around $1000. They have smaller valves and I think the dyno numbers on edelbrock's site said they made about 300hp.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2021 | 08:54 AM
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FWIW, have you talked with a local auto machine shop to see what they recommend. I would think you could have your heads rebuilt, get a cam the machine shop recommends, carb and intake, headers.

It's not like someone hasn't done this before.

Eastwoods Auto Machine - Homepage

That's my local shop, they have lots of knowledge.
 
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I’ve talked to a few in my area , northern Nj. I think by the time I rework the stock heads I might aswell get a set of aftermarket heads. I think I’m going with the edelbrock 60259 the rpm performer heads with the 2.02 valves but I will call and double check with them on Monday to very fitment with the bigger valves. My next thing would be the cam and which won’t be to radical and would still allow me to run stock pistons . Thanks for all the help guys
 
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subbed! Hope to see some pics of the build progression
 
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Originally Posted by Spoolin67
I’ve talked to a few in my area , northern Nj. I think by the time I rework the stock heads I might aswell get a set of aftermarket heads. I think I’m going with the edelbrock 60259 the rpm performer heads with the 2.02 valves but I will call and double check with them on Monday to very fitment with the bigger valves. My next thing would be the cam and which won’t be to radical and would still allow me to run stock pistons . Thanks for all the help guys
Use the cam in the package or one very much like it from another manufacturer. The whole idea is you will have no guesswork, you will get 400hp if you follow the package. The intake you have now will probably do well and still give you the 400hp.
 
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Originally Posted by Max Capacity
FWIW, have you talked with a local auto machine shop to see what they recommend. I would think you could have your heads rebuilt, get a cam the machine shop recommends, carb and intake, headers.

It's not like someone hasn't done this before.

Eastwoods Auto Machine - Homepage

That's my local shop, they have lots of knowledge.
The Ford heads are pretty bad when it comes to performance. They have small valves and lousy flow numbers. They do not have an adjustable valve train to accommodate different types of camshafts. He is correct, by the time you modified the heads for performance, you would have close to the same amount of money in them and they still will be lousy flowing heads.
 
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