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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 01:40 PM
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help - emissions systems delete now what ?

Well, it looks like the guy who owned my rig (1982 f series I6 300 engine) before me bypassed the smog system. Correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like the smog pump has been removed? I don’t know how I’m going to be able to get this to pass emissions in Idaho. It is a 1982, one year past the cut off date. It does still have the catalytic converter. What kind of effort will be required to reinstall the emission system? I believe there are various sensors and stuff connected to the computer to also right? Trying to get an idea of effort level here. Is it even possible to restore the emission system Or should I just say screw it and part this rig out?



 
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Are you sniffer or inspection or both?

Is there anything left of the smog pump system? Obvious plugs for example?

It's possible, but getting the parts is tough.

 
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 02:12 PM
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From what I’m reading from my era vehicle it is a sniffer and they inspect for a catalytic converter and that’s it.
 
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Do an oil change, make sure the air filter is clean or new, make sure the choke is working correctly, check for any hint of a miss and replace the plugs if you hear one, check the rest of the ignition, get it warm and run it through.
 
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Originally Posted by victoryvan
Well, it looks like the guy who owned my rig (1982 f series I6 300 engine) before me bypassed the smog system. Correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like the smog pump has been removed? I don’t know how I’m going to be able to get this to pass emissions in Idaho. It is a 1982, one year past the cut off date. It does still have the catalytic converter. What kind of effort will be required to reinstall the emission system? I believe there are various sensors and stuff connected to the computer to also right? Trying to get an idea of effort level here. Is it even possible to restore the emission system Or should I just say screw it and part this rig out?


Your van doesn't have a computer, so don't worry about that. All you will have to do is find a smog pump and get it mounted back in the engine with a belt. If you need some hoses to hook to it, go ahead. But if it's like my state, they just glance in there to see that it is there and the belt is on it and it looks like it's hooked up. It doesn't actually have to work properly.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 03:20 PM
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How do you know it doesn’t have a computer! And if that is true, does that mean it wouldn’t have an o2 sensor either ?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by victoryvan
How do you know it doesn’t have a computer! And if that is true, does that mean it wouldn’t have an o2 sensor either ?
Because the pick up trucks did not start with a computer till 83.
One way you can tell is if the dist. has a vacuum line to it or not and if the carb has a lot of wires to it.
Vacuum line to dist. and one or 2 wires to carb would make it non-computer.

What will it take to get a waiver?
What if you took it and failed then filed for the waiver with a list of what it would take to get it to pass.
Just in parts it may get the waiver and you only need it for 1 year right?
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I think it would pass if you did what the other poster said about a tune-up, and it would pass the visual if you mounted a air pump on it, and it already has the cat on it. Carefully pick your inspection station also. No big chains. Good old boy place out in the country.
 
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Ok thanks sounds good
 
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I know you guys said the computer didn’t start until 83, but isn’t this a computer in my engine compartment?
 
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
What will it take to get a waiver?
What if you took it and failed then filed for the waiver with a list of what it would take to get it to pass.
Just in parts it may get the waiver and you only need it for 1 year right?
Dave, I don't think that approach will work. The parts have to be present and connected. Most repair waiver programs specifically exclude missing parts, as that is considered tampering. Typically there's no dollar limit for missing parts. You can usually get a waiver if some unobtainable part is not working or costs too much, but not if missing altogether.

I wouldn't bother trying to fool an inspector, either. I'm sure they've seen it all and know what to look for, comparing what's installed to the calibration sticker diagram. I wouldn't bother with a bogus sticker, either. I'd imagine they've got access to OEM data and would know right away if the sticker didn't match the VIN and registration.

More details for Idaho:

https://www.idahovip.org/faq.html



 
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That link says visual inspection and sniffer. Tough call IMO. If you try it and fail, then you'd have to decide if your going to run down the parts, and the smoggie should mark off a list of what he's looking for.

How long ago did you buy it?

We see this on the boards from California from time to time: "I bought it and now I'm trying to smog it....". CA law says the seller is to smog it. No smog, no sale. There was one guy who did some major engine mods and thought the smog referee would understand his hard work. Not so much it turned out.

So, good luck whichever way you go.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2020 | 10:56 PM
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Well the good news is we can register the car as a “classic car” since it is older than 30 years old and it will not be one of our primary vehicles. That will exempt us from emissions testing. for some reason that doesn’t go through, I understand for a 1982 vehicle the only thing they will do is sniffer and cat check.🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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Originally Posted by victoryvan

I know you guys said the computer didn’t start until 83, but isn’t this a computer in my engine compartment?
That looks like the oddball Ford MCU system. Even more of a pain to work on and try to get parts for. This thing must have been bought in California. I would get rid of that as fast as I could. Looks like you do have a computer, one of the very first primitive systems we don't see very often.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 07:45 AM
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I don’t think it’s doing much anymore. Was its purpose strictly to regulate emissions or does it do other stuff too? Not sure it could be doing much at this point since carb and distributor have been changed to simple non feedback types, o2 sensor disconnected, vacuum hoses capped off, etc. What other components might it be connected to?
 
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