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Hi all
I have a 1999 E450 V10 RV with a problem. I am loosing fuel line pressure after sitting for about a week.Looking over the motor I don't see a schrader valve on the fuel rail. Did Ford eliminate it? If it is there, please post a picture. And if is not there, where is the best place to connect a fuel pressure gauge. At the fuel filter?
thanks
Al
Losing fuel line pressure after a week sitting is pretty normal.
Does it run well?
is it just a long crank after sitting ? You can cycle the key a couple times after a long sit. It will prime the fuel system and reduce crank time.
It could also also be a weak check valve in fuel pump but if it takes a week to bleed down it still seems to me pretty normal.
The fuel rail rail is chrome and on the passenger side near the rear of motor is a schrader valve. Borrow a test kit from your favorite auto parts store and do a few tests. Pull it up back of hood and tape it to windshield so you can see while driving. It should jump up around 35 psi quickly and while driving maintain that or go up to 40+ when you floor it.
You can check overnight bleed down pressure but that is somewhat normal too.
I have a 99 build v10 and just recently changed the battery. It was starting ok but was getting old and weak. I was amazed how much more quickly it has started with a fresh large battery. Not just cranking speed but how quickly it catches and how it hasn’t had a stumble start after sitting. I have wondered if the fuel pump likes the higher voltage while cranking. (Less voltage drop)
I have wondered if the fuel pump likes the higher voltage while cranking. (Less voltage drop)
The lower the voltage, the more amperage the fuel pump draws, overheating it's brushes and commutator, and potentially the fuel pump relay contacts. Overheating the brushes in the motor will cause dead spots on the commutator Burn marks, basically. Failure to start next time around. Bang on the tank with a 2x4, and it starts again.
With all the fuel pump failures I've worked through with family and friends over the years, I'm beginning to wonder if the root of their problems were because of a dead (or going dead) battery. Below is an extreme example of how the commutator looks are being beaten to death.
With all the fuel pump failures I've worked through with family and friends over the years, I'm beginning to wonder if the root of their problems were because of a dead (or going dead) battery. Below is an extreme example of how the commutator looks are being beaten to death.
Was there a photo to be included Krewat?
Another thing often not mentioned is possible pump over heating if the tank is continually run will less than 1/4 full. I can't say definitively this avoids all fuel pump failures but its something to consider.
Last edited by krewat; Jul 17, 2020 at 04:07 PM.
Reason: fixed the quoting
Another thing often not mentioned is possible pump over heating if the tank is continually run will less than 1/4 full. I can't say definitively this avoids all fuel pump failures but its something to consider.
I ran into multiple fuel pump failures in the past on my 95 F350 work truck that still had twin tanks and after 4 fuel pumps and my bad habit of not paying attention and always running one tank dry before changing like I did on my none EFI trucks I was told by a friend that was a Ford mechanic to switch at 1/4 tank because the fuel could cooled the pump. Ive never had a pump falure again on any of my trucks.
Denny I've been filling up at 1/4 tank for maybe 15 years now, had good luck until I didn't one fateful day........
Had just pulled out of a customers garage heading home when about 500' later my '03 E250 gasser with just over 255K miles died---I knew it was the fuel pump after a few quick tests and finding a DTC indicating failure to pressurize the fuel system. Up until that point there were absolutely no warning signs at all. I'd practiced the 1/4 thank re-fill since it came to live with me @ 165K miles. Of the 5-6 modular motor vans I've had or driven since 2000 or so that's the first fuel pump issue I've had---not a bad track record overall I'm thinking.
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