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Old 11-23-2003, 12:11 PM
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Yes and No.... The way I understand it, is that Ford charges the dealer for the little bit of gas they put in the truck for trans form the factory to the delivery truck and off the delivery truck to the dealer. That is not for the dealer's built in price to charge the buyer for a tank of gas. I know both ideals have been discussed.
 
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Old 11-23-2003, 12:14 PM
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I order a 2004 10/03/03. The gas charge from Ford was $46.44. I think that will fill up a 27 gallon tank.
 
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Old 11-23-2003, 12:33 PM
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Bummer Dude..... But I know that you will enjoy that new Truck...I wish I could get one too. I have to wait till the home finances fall into place. I've been remodeling the house. Maybe next spring. Enjoy your ride
 
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Old 11-23-2003, 12:43 PM
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I don't mind the gas charge. Like I said years ago the first thing you would do was stop and put in gas. You pay either way. It's just the cost of buying. I just paid off the house and the wife's 99 Taurus back in July. That's the only reason I can afford a new truck. I am going to keep my 97 XLT though. What I don't like is $46.44 in a 27 gallon tank figures out at $1.72 a gallon. A bit high if you ask me. Regular unleaded goes for around $1.22-1.29 a gallon around here. Premium is just $0.20 more. $1.72 is more than premium and I'm sure Ford buys at wholesale.
 
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Guys-

Hopefully people won't put up with this ....stuff..

What next- $50 charge for putting air in the tires.

As I said before, I worked at a dealership 6 years ago and they are very creative about getting your money.

I know you think that Ford is charging you for this particular case- but putting a gallon or two of gas in the car is part of the assembly line process.

I ordered a hamburger at McDonalds today and they charged me $2 plus 25 cents for delivery...

See what happens when you let people get away with this....
 
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Old 11-24-2003, 07:54 AM
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When I pay a gas charge of $46.44 I paid for the tank of gas. I don't care who pumps it, the manufacture or the dealer. I paid for it.
 

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Manufacture does not gas up cars to full- the dealer does.

Probably so the gas doesn't get stale while the car sits on the lot.
 
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Read my last post. I don't care who pumps it, I PAID for it!!
 
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:50 AM
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Your right!- you pay for it either way.

But why do they list it instead of just giving you a flat cost of $30,000 for a car with no add on fees?

The answer is just to complicate the process so that the dealer/manufacture can slip things past you- and at the same time make it sound like their cars are cheaper than they really are.

Neither reason is good for the buyer.
 
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Old 11-24-2003, 08:57 AM
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It's called itemization so you know exactly what you are paying for. Without it we wouldn't even know about the gas charge or the FDAFassessment. Happy Thanksgiving!!
 
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Originally posted by 460lover
I bought my new 2003 F250 for about $3000 under invoice, one because I have got an inside with my business dealings with the dealer, but I have seen it a few times.
Yes, but what about taking into account the 2003s have ALREADY Depreciated from the begining of 2003 until now ???

How do Dealerships calculate the Depriciation on NEW "Last Model year" vehicles ??
 
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Originally posted by 1956MarkII
or offer you way too little for your trade. .. THE DEALER DOES THIS ON PURPOSE! not going to think clearly, and you've just been duped.
I've read alot on this topic and I haven't seen anyone really discuss the issue of TRADE INs!

Most folks believe that a Dealership makes alot of money on NEW Vehicles. This Topic proves that.

Where Dealerships REALLY make ALOT of Money is on TRADE INs!
The mark up on Dealerships USED Cars is HUGE !!

Alot of Dealerships try to "steal" away YOUR Vehicle from you.

They want to pay as LITTLE as possible for YOUR Vehicle just like the Customer wants to pay as LITTLE as possible for their Vehicle.

Salesman like start by offering you AUCTION Price for your Trade In. BE CAREFUL for on the Price you are offered for YOUR Vehicle! Know the REAL Value of it BEFORE the Deal you Negotiate!

Also, keep in mind the Mileage and Condition of your Vehicle as well. Be SURE to Detail it BEFORE you go to the Dealership!

Bottom line is... DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

Check out sites like...

www.Edmunds.com
www.kbb.com and http://autos.msn.com/default.aspx?src=autolink
 

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Old 11-30-2003, 03:35 AM
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My Ranger was below invoice before rebates. I got 4750 in rebates on top
i did the smart thing and sold my other ford instead of taking a loss at the trade in (which is where they get most smart shoppers)
 
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Here's another great website....

This shows the 2003 F150 as an EXCELLANT Value. The 2004 should be in the same "ballpark" hopefully.
http://www.intellichoice.com/reports...vhcl_nmb/10088
 
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