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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 01:52 PM
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Crank no start

Shut the truck off, went into the store came back out it wouldn’t start.

2003 F350 175,000 miles

6.0 motor

Had the oil and filter changed yesterday drove six or eight hours before this happened.

Engine seems like it’s turning over hard tried jumpstarting it with a tow truck and jumper box on at the same time.

Have a scanner no codes on it at all since I bought the truck.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 02:02 PM
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Check out the Tech Folder no-start thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...condition.html

Also, what oil filter did you use and is your oil filter cap a tall one or an OEM one?

Many scanners aren't the best code readers. What are you using?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 02:05 PM
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The basics.

Usually, in order for the engine to start, with your scan tool, you look for:
cam/crank sync
FICM sync (the FICM is the Fuel Injection Control Module)
Commanded fuel pulse width (FPW) to ensure that the fueling command is given
ICP pressure of 500 psig
Cranking speed of 150 rpm minimum
Acceptable system voltage (typically over 11 volts)
FICM Main power (MPower) of 46-48 volts, and
FICM logic power (LPower) voltage of over 11 volts

and look at Rpm while cranking. Should be above 150.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
Check out the Tech Folder no-start thread:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...condition.html

Also, what oil filter did you use and is your oil filter cap a tall one or an OEM one?
The receipt from the shop says Ford Motorcraft FL- 2016 6.0 L and 6.4 L PS oil filter. Oil filler cap looks to be OEM not tall
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Warner789
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Engine seems like it’s turning over hard tried jump starting it with a tow truck and jumper box on at the same time.

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With all that electrical power behind it, you might have a situation of the A/C compressor being jammed. With equipment, you can check the RPM while starting, or remove the drive belt and see if the cranking of the motor is back to normal speed.

Or you could have a fried starter..... been there.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 02:13 PM
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I bought the scanner for a different vehicle. So, I am guessing it’s probably not right for this truck. It is a Zürich ZR 13
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 02:15 PM
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I know that the clutch on the AC unit did go out AC quit working
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 02:19 PM
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I can't tell if it is a CAN enabled OBDII scan tool or not.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 02:27 PM
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The clutch on the AC compressor went out before this happened. So it sounds like that might be the problem. The AC worked good before the clutch went out. Just wondering if I can replace the clutch on it and if that would be why it would be restricting engine from turning over ? or do I need a whole new compressor. Like I said it was working

just the clutch went out that I know of not the compressor ?
 
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Using the search function of this forum ......




like with the terms ..... air compressor locked



Brings up years of acquired knowledge.
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 03:05 PM
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Thank you, I just have a difficult time searching on this little phone. Most of the time I end up getting a headache and wanting to slam it on the ground Before I can search and find out what I need to know. LOL trying to take the belt off now I’m trying to figure out which probably is the tensioner pulley very hard to see in there
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
Using the search function of this forum ......




like with the terms ..... air compressor locked



Brings up years of acquired knowledge.

It was the air conditioner compressor. I took the serpentine belt off and it fired right up.

Now I just need to know if I can bypass the air conditioner compressor or do I have to go install a kit or whatever?
 
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Old Sep 1, 2019 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TooManyToys.
With all that electrical power behind it, you might have a situation of the A/C compressor being jammed. With equipment, you can check the RPM while starting, or remove the drive belt and see if the cranking of the motor is back to normal speed.

Or you could have a fried starter..... been there.

Do you know if I can skip around the air compressor with a new shorter belt? Or does it require some sort of kit after taking the air compressor off?
 
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I don't know of anyone who has done that. Most of the time the solution has just been to replace the pump. People have asked about just replacing the clutch, but it appears not to be an economical solution with higher mileage vehicles.
 
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Take the clutch cover off the front of the compressor and if the bearing is still okay you can run that way.
 
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