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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 06:34 PM
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460 having some trouble

I have a 1975 f-250 with a freshly rebuilt 460. It runs great but only has one problem. After it heats up (not over heat) the engine has some trouble starting but when the engine is cold it starts great.

I figured it might be timing or my starter is just going out. Also after it warms up and turn the key to start it doesn't crank for a few seconds then does just fine. If there are any other questions I'm happy to answer.

 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 07:03 PM
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Heat buildup from engine & exhaust can make starting much more difficult when the starter soaks it up compared with a cold start. Make sure charging system/battery is up to snuff and fresh manufacture heavy duty cables and good grounds, the undersized el-cheapo cables commonly sold these days don't help.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 08:19 PM
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If it's your timing you should notice it kicking the starter.

most of the time it's the starter or the battery . but the cables and solenoid certainly can cause problems.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 09:02 PM
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There is a way to test for excessive starter current draw with a carbon pile battery tester or use one of those fancy clamp on amp meters.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
There is a way to test for excessive starter current draw with a carbon pile battery tester or use one of those fancy clamp on amp meters.
What are the steps/details to test? Hook up the battery tester flip the switch and see what it registers?
 
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I use an amp meter to see what it's drawing.

If it were me and I knew the starter was old I'd just replace it and see what it does.
 
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What are the steps/details to test? Hook up the battery tester flip the switch and see what it registers?
Sort of. It's pretty clever, if you want to try it: Disable the ignition. Crank the starter for a few seconds and note the battery voltage.

Then apply a load to the battery with the carbon pile to achieve that same voltage indicated, and note the current draw. Bounce the current draw measured off the starter draw specification listed in the manual.

A starter on a V8 might draw anywhere from 100 to 200 amps depending on engine size and compression ratio, ignition timing etc, but when they start to go on the way out they will exceed their rating by quite a bit. A good, serviceable engine starter will always draw well under the max. current listed in the manual.
 
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