F-350 with bags.

 

While slightly different they are mostly similar because the Federal DOT pushed these rules off on the states. This was prior to 2014. Terms GVW and GVWR are used interchangeably. Trailers use the term GVW and trucks use GVWR. Remember it’s all about control.

 

The yellow sticker in the door jamb is what matters. You cant derate the truck just by registering it for less.

It just seems pointless to me to raise the payload of F250s to 350 levels. If so, why not just do away with F250s and just sell 350s.

 

I had to register my F350 for a GVWR of 12,000# because because their computers don’t have 11,500. I still can’t exceed the 11,500 on the door. Change can be difficult for some and 2020 will bring plenty change. In this state you pay by the declared weight of your truck.

 

You don't need a special license in CO as long as it's for recreation.

 

Sanity remains for now.

 

they could do F250s with various GVWRs available , like 9900,10k and 11.5k and make all F350s drw with GVWR of 10k and higher. the 450 could be left untouched.

we have to pay by GVWR here too but i have noticed many people will register their truck at lower weight classes to save money but still tow/haul at upper limits because they know they can get away with it. I have never seen police enforce weight limits on personal vehicles or the requirements for the noncommercial class a license

 

Actually, the yellow stick doesn't matter at all. The tire inflation information is useful, assuming you are still running stock tires. The payload number is meaningless beyond the moment in time the truck was weighed at the factory. All of the pertinent information is on the white sticker. And yes, you can de-rate a truck for less than the default GVWR either as an option from the factory or many states will let you do it at the time of registration.

The payload number is only significant as a marketing tool, and as a bragging point on internet forums. It isn't an actual rating, it's a calculation. What matters from a registration/licensing standpoint is GVWR. I'm with you on the the idea of raising the 250/2500 GVWR up to the 350/3500 level, but that is exactly what GM is doing. Effectively, the two trucks (2500 and 3500) are directly competing with each other. I don't understand the logic behind it other than the marketing bragging rights of having the highest "3/4 ton" payload. It will sound good in an ad. Logic rarely dictates the competition between the Big 3 when it comes to trucks. It is a constant game of one-upsmanship. I'm pretty sure Ford and RAM will feel like they must follow suit.

 

I have seen RVers pulled over on the interstate. Not uncommon to see 2500 (SRW) trucks pulled over while towing a three axle toy hauler. NVDot usually monitors commercial truck traffic.

 

thats good to know. i havent see it in PA. the state and local police usually hammer big rigs.

 

The GM could also be a heavy pig and they need to up the GVWR.

I am quite happy with my 2100 “payload” platinum that isn't a class 3 regulated vehicle. Rear axle is good enough for my towing needs.

 

As a point of discussion, each state abides by the laws of the other states in regards to licensing classification and exemptions.

that does not mean that you can disregard the rules of laws of the state but will allow you to tow your RV on your current license if it is allowed in your state to another state. Clear as mud?

 

The rule of the state you're licensed in is what you're required to do. I'm from CO, so anywhere I go as long as I'm following the CO law I'm good. Say I drive to a state that requires a class A for a certain weight, it doesn't apply to me because the CO law doesn't require it.

 

In the tens of thousands of miles I have towed all over the western US, I don't recall ever seeing any travel trailer or fifth wheel pulled over by law enforcement. Thinking about it, that's a little surprising to me because I have seen a few rigs worthy of being pulled over...usually Beverly Hillbilly type setups.

I seriously doubt cops are scanning the roads looking for 250/2500 trucks towing heavy. Unless it was an extreme case (bumper dragging on the ground) they couldn't even identify that situation. 3/4 and 1 ton SRW trucks look identical from the outside and the badges are generally pretty subtle. I don't think GMC Denali badges even differentiate between 2500 and 3500. I am going to assume that many officers, like the general public, have no idea of the differences between 3/4 and 1 ton truck and could care less. They are looking for drivers that present a more eminent danger (excessive speed, reckless driving, etc.) to themselves and others.

 

×2 never seen it, many cross country runs too including Nevada.

Dont think this is legit unless they were speeding, easy to do in a lot of western states with the open roads