Huh! You are kidding! Then why has Ram built their SRW truck to 12,300# or GM SRW now at 12,250? ....because customers want the extra GVWR in an SRW truck. I was easily towing 14,000# with a Ram while my F350 was borderline.

 

I feel you read that differently then I wrote it, if that makes sense....

Bring on the higher GVWR.

 

I probably did ...sorry! ...with the PS motor there is little stopping Ford. So Build it.

Im liking the self driving features too. These features should be standard for the bucks we are paying. We have been paying Tesla prices for years.

 

Why 12,300 and 12,250?

Most trailers would put you in either CDL or class A drivers license once you factor GCWR.

 

Who cares....then get the license if you need it. Questions are on the dmv website.

 

I care. Why spend my time getting a CDL and routinely volunteer surveillance?

Hopefully those are just options.

What are you guys hauling? Most every gooseneck is 14k same for HD conventional trailers.

 

My 5th wheel is 16,200lbs GVWR - and many (big 5th wheels) are right there as that seems to be a good limit for the SRW's RAWR. You can get bigger no doubt, but there seem to be a large amount sitting right at 16200-16500GVWR. Combine that with the large frontal area, and RVer's really work these trucks, much more then a GN horse-trailer or flatbed for example.

 

Yeah got that, once you are over 16k you are in a different license territory anyway.

Generally see trailers at 10k, 12k, 14k and some 16k. Those are working trailers though.

 

Nope , a gooseneck rests its weight in the bed of the truck. If you got a light weight truck it’s easy to run out of GVWR. Getting a non commercial DL isn’t hard....just buck up. There is no logbooks with a non commercial license. Federal regs have changed that’s why they created a special test for drivers who tow heavy.

 

I wouldn’t mind some more GVW.

 

Well 5th wheel is usually private and generally heavier on the pin, and has passengers/cargo in the truck. I can see how it wouldn’t matter 11,500 or 12,300 if your trailer is rated over 16,000 anyway. Getting a class A is pretty ‘vanilla’ compared to a CDL.

When i hook up to a GN its just me. My cargo is a cup of coffee and a case of water usually. I go off the axle weights and combined GCWR, if they change that and enforce it hard enough I’ll just register it for 11,940, the axle weight ratings.

I can be about 16k on the trailer and I’m under CDL weights and right at Fords advertised GCWR for this truck.

Anyway.... Different scenarios but if I had a 12,300 GCWR truck I would definitely get a ticket as they routinely tag duallies pulling goosenecks.

 

Running airbags? 250 or 350?

This is around 15k on my 250 with trailer. Its short but a stack on each side.

 

The DMV looks at the GVWR on the truck, then trailer, if two are greater than 26,001 you’ll need a non Commercial DL. There’s nothing to do with axle ratings. Most of us get heavy because we have aux fuel tanks. At 8 mpg the 48 gallon tank is gone quickly. If you take the non commercial test, there is no break testing or physical exam. Done.

 

That is not clear in many states. In MD, some regulations say "weighing 26,000 or less GVW," so my 15.5k fifth wheel on my 10k F450 is fine on a class c. Some docs say "combination at 26,000 or less GVWR," whatever that means. And the worst language of all is on the back of my new license... it used to be clear: "weighing 26,000 pounds or less GVW." Now it says "weighing 26,000 or less pounds GVWR." What does that mean??? Which takes precedence, "weighing" or the newly added "R" after "GVW"?

Anyway, I printed the regulations from the MD MVA that say it's weight and not weight rating and keep them in my truck with one of my 25.5k weight slips and roll with my class C.

 

Lariat,

Actually its commercial use so CDL. My company uses this F250 to pick up material on holidays, weekends, or in pinches.

Whats funny is these hotshot guys in DRW trying to stay under CDL probably haul less than I can. Of course legally and per Ford also. I follow the yellow sticker on the door, white sticker, and GCWR Ford advertises.

For Commercial a 10,000 F250 is usually pretty adequate if unless you want a CDL.