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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mikekerr
Like the OP, my plug was recently replaced prior to electrode ground failure. In my case the plug was replaced by a Ford Dealer in Western Minnesota in January 2018. Did the Ford dealer use old stock? Possibly. Did they charge me for a plug change that they overlooked? Possible, but it was cylinder #5 on the 5.4L, which is a very easy plug to replace so I find it tough to understand how a tech would miss #5.

It was very frustrating after the plug failure, that both I and the Utah Ford dealer could not get the truck back firing on #5. I replaced the plug, COP, and fuel injector, all with OEM. The dealer repeated what I did, along with a compression test. Six weeks later the Ford Dealer Tech gave up, unless I wanted to replace the PCM. I picked the truck up from the Ford Dealer, and the truck crawled home, running like crap.

I read one hundred pages on this forum's 5.4v board, likely over a thousand posts. Came to a thought that I either had a carbon issue, or a plug seating issue. Researched the Champion plug for the 5.4v 3v, it has a very different design than the latest OEM. It has a conventional electrode ground, more threads, a wider sealing lip to the head, and a larger "bolt" to secure it.

It is important to share this story, someone shared their story which led me down the path I went to- which resulted in a running truck that was headed for the junk yard. I wanted to share my story as maybe it will trigger some course of actions for someone with misfire issues.
I greatly appreciate your feed back. It makes me more confident knowing I'm not the only one with the issue, and it's not just my truck going haywire.
 
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Old Jul 2, 2019 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorrainethef250
I dont think I've done anything wrong with it.. it's been babied its whole life. I dont touch major engine components or ignition systems for this exact reason (except this one time). I just do not know if it was a possible failure of the plug, or if my engine is too hot, or what's happening. It's been driving me nuts.

There was a TSB over ten years ago that stated to not use the welded plugs. All plugs need to be single piece updated design. Not sure why these ancient plugs are still in circulation.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2024 | 10:07 PM
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I’m having this same problem right now. Did anybody ever locate the guard (electro ground) and if not did it ever cause any issues with the trucks down the road. I have a scope and I see no sign of the guard in the cylinder
 
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Old Apr 17, 2024 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Noahpatton
I’m having this same problem right now. Did anybody ever locate the guard (electro ground) and if not did it ever cause any issues with the trucks down the road. I have a scope and I see no sign of the guard in the cylinder
I ended up selling the truck a few years ago, but I continued to drive it without an issue for another 30k miles, if I remember correctly. The cam phasers died at right around 145k, and every body component has rust and rot holes, so I let her go to a local chicken farmer.

I never found the piece. Never really looked, to be entirely honest. I think it disintegrated after a few revolutions, but I am no mechanic. Either way, I never had an issue regarding plugs until I sold it.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2024 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ford390gashog
Something here is wrong, the current plugs are PZH and have been since 2012. The PZK plug is the original to the engine. The new plug you have next to it shouldn't be used, the PZH plugs eliminate the welded portion. Where did you get the obsolete new plug from?
fordtechmakeyouloco said that the current is sp-546 pzk and that sp-515 pzh is the old one and that’s what the ford dealer says as well I think you have it backwards.
 
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