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Old 06-10-2019, 11:24 PM
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1956 F600 Rear Brake Banjo fitting needed

Need help finding a banjo fitting for the rear brake. Any leads or updated part number? Looks like the original part number was/is 356690-s. Mine doesn't seal the crush washers the passenger side. No seal no brakes....






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No luck finding a new oem replacement so far.... But I did find a suitable substitute. BrakQuip sells a nearly correct fix; at least for me. I still would like to find, new or used, the correct ones. Here's the link to the items I just ordered. Two of each with shipping came to $24.00.

Banjo block 7/16 bore 7/16-24 inverted flare inlet (BQ62)

Banjo bolt 7/16-20 x 1" (BQ8096)



 
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356690-S .. Connection-Rear Brake Cylinder Inlet / 7/16" -24 / Obsolete

No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any, none on ebay.
 
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356690-S .. Connection-Rear Brake Cylinder Inlet / 7/16" -24 / Obsolete

No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any, none on ebay.
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Am I right that these "356690-S .. Connection-Rear Brake Cylinder Inlet / 7/16" -24" are the same 1953-1979? C/P/F 500/600? Yet they are somehow obsolete and unavailable....

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Bill

Am I right that these "356690-S .. Connection-Rear Brake Cylinder Inlet / 7/16" -24" are the same 1953-1979? C/P/F 500/600? Yet they are somehow obsolete and unavailable....

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I looked in the 1957/63 truck catalog to verify the number, then once I did, didn't look any further...because no one had any.
 
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Might this be what you're looking for? I'm sure Chuck has lots of them too, but you can't beat my price (postage).


 
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Might this be what you're looking for? I'm sure Chuck has lots of them too, but you can't beat my price (postage).
Bob

Looks slightly different but if the Banjo bolt is 3/4" then it would work. I talked to Chucks and he had no listing for them. If you want to pass them along I would be glad to pay for shipping and your favorite refreshment.

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I just wondered if the years span was correct. 1953 - 1979?

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Bob

Looks slightly different but if the Banjo bolt is 3/4" then it would work. I talked to Chucks and he had no listing for them. If you want to pass them along I would be glad to pay for shipping and your favorite refreshment.

Thanks Glenn

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I just wondered if the years span was correct. 1953 - 1979?

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I thought the year span might be greater, but no. My part is #91T-2276 (1/2"-20 x 1-3/8") and the block is 91T2277. Sorry.
But I'll zip it out tomorrow and measure for sure.
 
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Did you try new copper washers , or very lightly filling the fitting to make sure it's flat on the sealing faces ?
 
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The nice thing about our old trucks is that the parts for many of the mechanics are interchangeable. Classic Parts USA has many of the same brass parts that we use on our trucks, which were also used on GMC and others. Take a look at many of the T Blocks and Line Blocks here. The 7/16" Line Block, in brass specifically, can be found here and at the time of this writing are just over $3 each. It looks a little different but performs identically. The banjo bolt, in 7/16"-20 and 1" is a little tougher but you've done a fine job finding that one.
 
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Bob

Thanks for going the extra mile and removing those to check! Must be pre- '53? More parts for the save pile! Thanks again!

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Did you try new copper washers , or very lightly filling the fitting to make sure it's flat on the sealing faces ?
Thanks Scott for the suggestions. Unfortunately I made a mistake installing the blocks on the new wheel cylinders. The newer WC I bought have a recessed area for the sealing block that the old WC didn't have. There was a week, my excuse, between removal and installation. I just didn't see the interference. Tightening the block deformed the said block at the bottom by .010. Way too much for the washers crush to overcome...

I got lucky in two ways. Research found the ones in #2 post above. But even better the links Connecticut Calvin posted looks like a better fit than those; Banjo fitting. Only I am told by their tech that the inlet size is 3/16 inverted flare. So change the line fitting, mine line is 1/4", or go with an adapter. Thanks Calvin!

Love this forum! Forecast is for brakes by next week.... Thanks everyone!!! Glenn

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Bob

Thanks for going the extra mile and removing those to check! Must be pre- '53? More parts for the save pile! Thanks again!
I checked and they are a 1/2"-20 banjo bolt with a 3/4" hex head. For a 1950 and earlier non dual piston.
 
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Originally Posted by OldStyle
Bob

Thanks for going the extra mile and removing those to check! Must be pre- '53? More parts for the save pile! Thanks again!



Thanks Scott for the suggestions. Unfortunately I made a mistake installing the blocks on the new wheel cylinders. The newer WC I bought have a recessed area for the sealing block that the old WC didn't have. There was a week, my excuse, between removal and installation. I just didn't see the interference. Tightening the block deformed the said block at the bottom by .010. Way too much for the washers crush to overcome...

I got lucky in two ways. Research found the ones in #2 post above. But even better the links Connecticut Calvin posted looks like a better fit than those; Banjo fitting. Only I am told by their tech that the inlet size is 3/16 inverted flare. So change the line fitting, mine line is 1/4", or go with an adapter. Thanks Calvin!

Love this forum! Forecast is for brakes by next week.... Thanks everyone!!! Glenn

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