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Old May 30, 2019 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rrgone
Thanks for the input on the 2019 5.0s. I read around here and elsewhere and came to the same conclusion that the newer version (whatever that means exactly) does not have the oil consumption issue. I am looking at ordering from local Ford or traveling out to TX to get my 3.5 EB truck. Kind of want to avoid bringing a truck in from out of state as I want the local outfit to not hate me should I have an issue with it.
Newer version means that the 5.0 in the current 2018 & 2019 F-150 is totally different than the 5.0 in the 2015-2017 F-150.
 
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Old May 30, 2019 | 04:38 PM
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I think that keeping the transmission in sport mode for the first couple thousand miles is probably a good idea, especially with the 10-speed transmission. I suspect there is not enough RPM range for the break in period. I don't know that as a fact, I am speculating.
The heck with sport mode folks. Just lock out the upper gears and drive normal. I don't have the 10 speed so I'm not sure what gear to use but in the 6 speed just lock out 3rd or 4th and up and drive it with the higher RPM's. For example, if I lock out 4th and up and drive at 50 or 60< I'm running in the 3000 - 4000 rpm range which is what you want, high(er) cylinder pressures.
 
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Old May 30, 2019 | 04:48 PM
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Oil is checked daily, and on every gas fill up on trips.
Never gets below halfway, so not ever low on oil.
Failure to do a complete and full pre trip inspection as required, by any employee, is grounds for termination.

I did a pre trip on my motorcycle this morning at the house, rode 8.5 kms to work, and looked it over again very carefully before riding it to lunch. Will look it over again before i leave the parking lot, and again later today before riding it home. Why, because it is my responsibility and mine alone to ensure that fluids are topped up, tires inflated properly, nothing is coming loose, lights all work, etc.
Maybe its the pilot in me, but even if i did a preflight and only flew 30 minutes. I do another pre flight before I would fly it again.
As a vehicle driver, I would hope the VERY MINIMUM you would open the hood and check the oil level is every gas stop. If not, why not?
My 'excessive' comment was regarding the amount of oil used by the engines.
It seems excessive for an engine to use 1.5 quarts between oil changes, for someone who won't be reminded by the IOLM to do it for approx 10K miles.

But....back to making the OP's truck faster conversation.
 
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Old May 30, 2019 | 04:54 PM
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The heck with sport mode folks. Just lock out the upper gears and drive normal. I don't have the 10 speed so I'm not sure what gear to use but in the 6 speed just lock out 3rd or 4th and up and drive it with the higher RPM's. For example, if I lock out 4th and up and drive at 50 or 60< I'm running in the 3000 - 4000 rpm range which is what you want, high(er) cylinder pressures.
High cylinder pressure is not only from RPM, but from engine load and throttle position.
 
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Old May 30, 2019 | 04:57 PM
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Sky Cowboy makes a great point. Something that isn't done by most people these days is a PM check. Full service stations used to do it for people, but 99.9% of those are gone. I can only think of 2 with in 20 miles of me.

At least once a week check the oil. And on the engines with stop/start, wait 15 minutes before you check it or it will read as if the oil is low. Get a gauge and check your tire pressure. The dash readout is usually correct, but I double check about once a month anyway. This is a good time to get a closer look at your tires to check for even wear and tread depth. Check your lights. Make sure your wipers work well. If you have 4x4, engage it on a straight road every so often to make sure it will work when you need it. Then service the truck on the schedule in the owner's manual, if not sooner.
 
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Old May 30, 2019 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta Echo
High cylinder pressure is not only from RPM, but from engine load and throttle position.
Agreed but one doesn't have to use the aggressively shifting/down shifting sport mode. While driving in 3rd or 4th press the throttle some to load the engine more.
 
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Old May 31, 2019 | 10:06 AM
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Sky Cowboy makes a great point. Something that isn't done by most people these days is a PM check. Full service stations used to do it for people, but 99.9% of those are gone. I can only think of 2 with in 20 miles of me.

At least once a week check the oil. And on the engines with stop/start, wait 15 minutes before you check it or it will read as if the oil is low. Get a gauge and check your tire pressure. The dash readout is usually correct, but I double check about once a month anyway. This is a good time to get a closer look at your tires to check for even wear and tread depth. Check your lights. Make sure your wipers work well. If you have 4x4, engage it on a straight road every so often to make sure it will work when you need it. Then service the truck on the schedule in the owner's manual, if not sooner.

I just assumed that everyone did that, or more.
Never ever, would I not open the hood and check the fluids between oil changes.
Heck in the sloppy winter weather you have to open the hood weekly at least anyways to add washer fluid here.

Bike was given a good look over again this morning as is usual, then started to run on high idle, lights checked, put on my helmet and gloves, and ridden gently for the first 2 or 3 minutes to get things moving and warmed up a bit. Only then do i start getting into the throttle more than about 10%, but always keeping in mind its still not up to full operating temperature, so i keep the revs to about half of redline and half throttle maximum for another few minutes. Once fully warmed up, then and only then would i let it howl.
I treat my car and pickup the same way.
True my employees are not going to be as gentle to my company pickups, but at least I know when the roll out of the yard the fluids are up in the safe range, everything such as lights are functional, etc.
I can sit in my office and watch them pre trip the company vehicles before they go.
If someone was to just walk out and be the first person to sign out that vehicle for the day, and not do their pre trip, they would be fired, no excuses would change my mind, except possibly the scenario where another employee was severely injured, and they were rushing them to emergency.
Then i would let it slide to save that one minute, otherwise no way, immediate termination.
 
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Old May 31, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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This is funny. That was the biggest issue with my last 5.0L oil burner engine. I was told with my 3,500 mile oil change interval, it didn’t matter if it burned a quart or two between changes. I was changing the oil before it was too low. To me, it mattered. Something was wrong MOST would have never discovered. I check oil level weekly. It clearly used oil. Who else checks oil? None of my friends or co-workers do. Most don’t!
The dealer inferred oil changes would take care of the oil use.... replace low volume with full before it was too low. Well, if I didn’t check it and waited for the monitor to tell me to change my oil, the sump would have had 2-3 quarts left in it. Funny when I wanted to trade it off before the TSB, I was told if someone who bought it, they’d probably never know it burned oil unless it ran 10-12k before the monitor said “change oil”. Yet after the TSB, when I just asked to dump it before the fixing hassle, and I couldn’t. I was told “what if the next guy gets it and it burns oil? Ford will have paid to get you out, and then to fix it”. While I agree, it seems to be a double standard. Oil use is only considered a problem IF there is a TSB. If not, ANY oil consumption is normal. We’ll see. My replacement mill is off to a great start. Down over a quart in 3,000 miles.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 09:33 AM
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This is funny. That was the biggest issue with my last 5.0L oil burner engine. I was told with my 3,500 mile oil change interval, it didn’t matter if it burned a quart or two between changes. I was changing the oil before it was too low. To me, it mattered. Something was wrong MOST would have never discovered. I check oil level weekly. It clearly used oil. Who else checks oil? None of my friends or co-workers do. Most don’t!
The dealer inferred oil changes would take care of the oil use.... replace low volume with full before it was too low. Well, if I didn’t check it and waited for the monitor to tell me to change my oil, the sump would have had 2-3 quarts left in it. Funny when I wanted to trade it off before the TSB, I was told if someone who bought it, they’d probably never know it burned oil unless it ran 10-12k before the monitor said “change oil”. Yet after the TSB, when I just asked to dump it before the fixing hassle, and I couldn’t. I was told “what if the next guy gets it and it burns oil? Ford will have paid to get you out, and then to fix it”. While I agree, it seems to be a double standard. Oil use is only considered a problem IF there is a TSB. If not, ANY oil consumption is normal. We’ll see. My replacement mill is off to a great start. Down over a quart in 3,000 miles.

This sucks man.

I currently have a GM product with close to 100k miles. I am shopping Ford this time around. I was pretty dead set on a 5.0L F-150 but then started reading about this problem.

 
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 12:36 PM
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I don't think the problem is as wide spread as some would have you believe. Do you have any idea how many Ford has sold? These forums are for gear heads and people who have problems. I suspect most don't. As for me, I have enjoyed mine.
 
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Old Jun 1, 2019 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bedwards
I don't think the problem is as wide spread as some would have you believe. Do you have any idea how many Ford has sold? These forums are for gear heads and people who have problems. I suspect most don't. As for me, I have enjoyed mine.
I understand and I would guess most are fine. But when Ford starts issuing TSBs and replacing engines, people start getting nervous. I love the truck that I test drove (5.0L Lariat trim SCREW) and willing to give Ford some time to see if this is sorted out with the 2019s.
 
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 12:54 PM
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I have a 2018 5.0 Screw and have no issues. used a little before the first oil change. even less on the second change. I change the oil every 6 mons or 6,000 miles I have 7,243 miles on the truck and it was one year old in April!
 
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 12:58 PM
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I don't know on the 19's but my 18 was an early build as I ordered it as soon as I could. Eventho it got a 7000 mile trip across country with in a few months and never used any oil it started showing signs of it when it had 13K on it. It is now on the Ford Test 3 K test, I decided to use either sport or tow-haul with all in-town driving which is what the truck sees. Sure enough in 1400 miles there show no appreciable oil use. Personally I'm happy about that and don't want to get another engine if it's not needed. The use of tow-haul actually seems the best to me because it gets into 7th at 40 mph where Sport takes 45. I also like it when the trans has not warmed up to operating temp. When I head out on the road/freeways I put the trans in normal operation.
I am a gearhead and change oil often because both my wife car and my truck do not get on the road enough.. I'm with others here who say there are thousands of 5.0s out there with no problems and many are not the light foot driver I have always been
 
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Old Jun 2, 2019 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sky Cowboy
Oil is checked daily, and on every gas fill up on trips.
Never gets below halfway, so not ever low on oil.
Failure to do a complete and full pre trip inspection as required, by any employee, is grounds for termination.

I did a pre trip on my motorcycle this morning at the house, rode 8.5 kms to work, and looked it over again very carefully before riding it to lunch. Will look it over again before i leave the parking lot, and again later today before riding it home. Why, because it is my responsibility and mine alone to ensure that fluids are topped up, tires inflated properly, nothing is coming loose, lights all work, etc.
Maybe its the pilot in me, but even if i did a preflight and only flew 30 minutes. I do another pre flight before I would fly it again.
As a vehicle driver, I would hope the VERY MINIMUM you would open the hood and check the oil level is every gas stop. If not, why not?
You must be a blast at parties. You check your oil every single day... because you think oil is magically going to disappear without a trace?
 
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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 04:59 PM
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You must be a blast at parties. You check your oil every single day... because you think oil is magically going to disappear without a trace?
Actually it is a LAW for all company vehicles here.
Me, I do it because I care about what I drive, fly, or ride.
 
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